Post by: crankncrash on November 28, 2006, 09:27:56 AM
Post by: BrunsNick on November 28, 2006, 05:33:11 PM
As far as a video... we'll see!
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Brunswick -=- PBA 03-06
http://www.BrunsNick.com
¡Viva la nación de Brunswick!
Post by: crankncrash on November 28, 2006, 05:40:41 PM
Post by: BrunsNick on November 28, 2006, 05:59:06 PM
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Nick Smith ... A.K.A. Les Badderâ„¢
Brunswick -=- PBA 03-06
http://www.BrunsNick.com
¡Viva la nación de Brunswick!
Post by: crankncrash on November 28, 2006, 07:17:57 PM
1) is the cover going to be the oil sponge that activator plus was, meaning that i have to soak it in hot water every 40 games or so to keep it alive?
2) What will the general changes in shape be on the lanes with Rough Buff? I'm thinking Vapor on roids to be honest.
3) If its 2-3 boards more than the NM, where is it moving more?
O and I have never bought hammer anything so yeah its Brunswick that I WANT to buy, but god are the Hammers looking good.
Post by: 302efi on November 28, 2006, 08:01:13 PM
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If you are comparing the NM to the TI, the TI is about 2-3 boards stronger in a side by side comparison and handles transition better.
LOL...I know you work for Brunswick and all...but there is no way that a symmetric pearl ball is stronger then a asymmetric solid ball, sorry...
You go ahead and drill a TI with a label drill and do the NM with one as well...2-3 boards ?
LOL
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When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
Post by: J_Mac on November 28, 2006, 08:04:55 PM
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If you are comparing the NM to the TI, the TI is about 2-3 boards stronger in a side by side comparison and handles transition better.
LOL...I know you work for Brunswick and all...but there is no way that a symmetric pearl ball is stronger then a asymmetric solid ball, sorry...
You go ahead and drill a TI with a label drill and do the NM with one as well...2-3 boards ?
LOL
You know, it's replies like this that make a person on staff think twice about replying to topics like the above without pausing to consider the backlash from the likes of you.
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"A word to the wise ain't necessary -- it's the stupid ones that need the advice." Bill Cosby
"Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Post by: 302efi on November 28, 2006, 08:08:46 PM
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If you are comparing the NM to the TI, the TI is about 2-3 boards stronger in a side by side comparison and handles transition better.
LOL...I know you work for Brunswick and all...but there is no way that a symmetric pearl ball is stronger then a asymmetric solid ball, sorry...
You go ahead and drill a TI with a label drill and do the NM with one as well...2-3 boards ?
LOL
You know, it's replies like this that make a person on staff think twice about replying to topics like the above without pausing to consider the backlash from the likes of you.
You point is ?
Whats your opinion on his comment ?
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Roto-Grip & Lane #1
When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
Post by: MegaMav on November 28, 2006, 08:12:10 PM
or are you just punking it up once again?
Post by: 302efi on November 28, 2006, 08:22:11 PM
Rick said the Total is 2-3 boards stronger then the No Mercy...With the same drill there is NO way that is happening, lol...You know that, I know that...Most of this board knows that.
There are 2 completely different balls....A blind man could see which hooks more...Not that the most hook wins or anything....
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Roto-Grip & Lane #1
When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
Post by: 302efi on November 28, 2006, 08:25:19 PM
Not automatically, but in this case it is...
I've seen them both in action, have you ?
I might have to complain next time be cause I'm white...
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Roto-Grip & Lane #1
When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
Post by: 302efi on November 28, 2006, 08:43:53 PM
NOPE
Amount of boards covered goes to the stronger ball, right ?
Where on the lanes the boards are covered is the variable...
To the original poster, crankncrash -
Please post this in the Hammer forum and see what they say as well, before you make you buying decision
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Roto-Grip & Lane #1
When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
Post by: Joe Jr on November 28, 2006, 08:53:11 PM
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- Joe
Formerly Brunswick Lefty
Banned under the user name Richard Cranium
Post by: 302efi on November 28, 2006, 09:04:08 PM
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...I will give an honest response or comparison even if it is negative towards Brunswick.
Show me one topic.
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On top of that, to make a statement that a solid is stronger than a pearl or a symmetrical core ball is weaker than an asymmetrical is a very uneducated statement as well.
Then way even make different covers (solids, pearl, particle pearl, plastic) and cores....If they all can do the same thing ?
"Hey man my new (insert ball here) with its new duron plastic cover and pancake weightblock out hooks your (insert other ball here) with it's 320 grit finished particle cover and .99 diff (.50 mb) weightblock ! HAHA
quote:
Octane Gription has a new additive that allows it to responds to friction differently
Thats it !...Thats what I was waiting for ! The marketing mumbo jumbo
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Back to spreading my Brunswick blasphemy.
Your suppose to, you work for them.
Back to the TI vs NM...Why don't you post how the balls were drilled and cover preps ? What lane condition they were compared on ?
I'm pretty sure you agree that would help the original poster as well, instead of just saying, "this ball is 2-3 boards stronger"
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Roto-Grip & Lane #1
When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
Post by: crankncrash on November 28, 2006, 10:15:52 PM
Post by: RSalas on November 28, 2006, 11:03:30 PM
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On top of that, to make a statement that a solid is stronger than a pearl or a symmetrical core ball is weaker than an asymmetrical is a very uneducated statement as well.
Then way even make different covers (solids, pearl, particle pearl, plastic) and cores....If they all can do the same thing ?
Who said anything about different covers and cores doing the same thing?
quote:
Back to the TI vs NM...Why don't you post how the balls were drilled and cover preps ? What lane condition they were compared on ?
Why should he bother? Is it even remotely possible that any answers that he could give would change your mind on this matter?
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...formerly "The Curse of Dusty," and "Poöter Boöf" before that...
Post by: 302efi on November 29, 2006, 12:23:23 AM
quote:quote:QuoteBack to the TI vs NM...Why don't you post how the balls were drilled and cover preps ? What lane condition they were compared on ?
Why should he bother? Is it even remotely possible that any answers that he could give would change your mind on this matter?
You didn't quote my whole response...Doesn't really matter to me one way or another. BrunsRich should post them so the original poster could have something to go by instead of "2-3 boards stronger"...lol
Pretty broad statement for someone "in the know" to give advice, huh ?
2-3 boards where ?
2-3 boards overall ?
2-3 boards backend ?
2-3 boards midlane ?
How about the layout used on both ? What was the cover ?
As far as we know the cover on the NM could be box (4000) and the TI be 400 when they made the comparison...
Don't you think that if someone told you xxx ball was stronger then yyy ball you would want the person to tell you all the specs ?
The original poster is about to make a $180+ purchase on a new ball, shouldn't he get as much info as possible to help him make his choice instead of some guy that works for the company one-siding his decision ?
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Roto-Grip & Lane #1
When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
Post by: Grayson on November 29, 2006, 01:30:00 AM
Hey I mean after all we are talking about:
two different balls with
- different cores
- different coverstocks and
- different surface preparation
and the question about assymetric vs symmetric also is "down the loo" cause the drilling makes hell of a difference!
My Tsunami as assymetric and solid has same hook as my Arsenal Angular Particle.
Two balls! Different cores! One is a solid Reactive the other a Pearl Particle. Both cover the same "amount" of boards but with different shape cause I wanted them drilled that way... the solid starts earlier with a smoother overallmovement whereas the pearl particle goes longer and snaps more towards the pocket...
So I would say the balls are equally strong. And there's nothing wrong in that statement.
So please stop complaining about Nick making a statement that is in his oppinion true cause you can't prove him wrong! And after all I guess he has more info and insight than others including me have so we would like him to give us advice.
I appreciate his help.... a lot!
Post by: 302efi on November 29, 2006, 01:56:15 AM
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Isn't this whole discussion for the loo?
Hey I mean after all we are talking about:
two different balls with
- different cores
- different coverstocks and
- different surface preparation
and the question about assymetric vs symmetric also is "down the loo" cause the drilling makes hell of a difference!
My Tsunami as assymetric and solid has same hook as my Arsenal Angular Particle.
Two balls! Different cores! One is a solid Reactive the other a Pearl Particle. Both cover the same "amount" of boards but with different shape cause I wanted them drilled that way... the solid starts earlier with a smoother overallmovement whereas the pearl particle goes longer and snaps more towards the pocket...
So I would say the balls are equally strong. And there's nothing wrong in that statement.
So please stop complaining about Nick making a statement that is in his oppinion true cause you can't prove him wrong! And after all I guess he has more info and insight than others including me have so we would like him to give us advice.
I appreciate his help.... a lot!
Who was complaining about BrunsNick ? I think you didnt read it right...All my comments where in reference to BrunsRicH
Also you pointed out exactly what I was saying...Both balls are completely different cores & covers and are finished different....so having said that, consider what I said from the get go:
Drilled the same, with same finish, the No Mercy out hooks the Total Inferno.
So I drill both balls with a label (basic drill) and finish them the same cover...You think the TI will be stronger overall ?...LOL
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Roto-Grip & Lane #1
When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
Post by: BrunsNick on November 29, 2006, 02:00:58 AM
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Nick Smith ... A.K.A. Les Badderâ„¢
Brunswick -=- PBA 03-06
http://www.BrunsNick.com
¡Viva la nación de Brunswick!
Post by: 302efi on November 29, 2006, 02:35:19 AM
Actually I wouldnt mind owning one, the guy tossing the one in the Brunswick TI video makes it look damn good...Lots of continuation through the pit.
The guy on my team that has one puts alot of forward roll on his, but he just don't send it out there like in the vid
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Roto-Grip & Lane #1
When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
Post by: kmanestor22 on November 29, 2006, 12:13:57 PM
No Mercy - little or no possibility of an effective weight hole on pos side.
Now tell me with a straight face that I can't drill a Total to outhook the No Mercy given same pin distance, same cover prep.
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Post by: golfnutFL on November 29, 2006, 02:08:55 PM
If the TI is 2-3 boards STRONGER than the NM I'll have to bowl from the next lane on the left! The NM is SCARY strong, can't wait to see what the TI is capable of....--------------------
Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.
Post by: shelley on November 29, 2006, 02:19:35 PM
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If you are a Brunswick person, I would recommend this ball.
A Brunswick rep thinks people should buy Brunswick balls! Truly shocking.
SH
Post by: Mercyless on November 29, 2006, 05:38:18 PM