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Equipment Boards => Brunswick => Topic started by: lefty2511 on August 04, 2012, 08:25:51 PM
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I used to bowl in college and sweared by brunswick equipment. This was back in the mid to late 90's. I quit bowling competivly in 1998. i just got back into it 4 years ago and got the itch to get on top of the crowd again.
The issue i have is my equipment is older. I still throw my teal rhino pro as my main line, straight down 10 and snap to the pocket at 45 ft.
My other main ball is a black ice zone, which i play as a bigger swing, usually 15 to 5 or such.
I recently purchased a elite sabatoge, which i like, but i wanna get into the newer brunswick stuff to stay true to my roots.
Would any of you guys, or gals, like to throw suggestions or comment out there to help, i would appreciate it.
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A good ball to get you back in the swing of things is the Nexus Pearl. Not too strong, but still alot of ball that gives you a nice ball motion with that classic polished skid/snap. Many people like the Versa Max, but I was just never fond of it, but many others like it. So with that being said, I'd go with a Nexus Pearl.
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A good ball to get you back in the swing of things is the Nexus Pearl. Not too strong, but still alot of ball that gives you a nice ball motion with that classic polished skid/snap. Many people like the Versa Max, but I was just never fond of it, but many others like it. So with that being said, I'd go with a Nexus Pearl.
Would you recommend getting it drilled to skid snap, or anyother type? I really want one that i can play on multiplelines and not have to switch mid game.
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I usually like this ball pin up which gives me more entry angle and a more outside break point. Also with my stronger equipment, it's nice to have more length, even though I drill just about every Brunswick ball pin up CG out. I usually like all pearl bowling balls I own to have a good amount of length.
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Don't ditch the Teal Rhino Pro. Being able to play down the outside is a real bonus and that ball still kills it on today's lanes.
If you liked your Danger Zone take a look at the Karmas. Same core -- minus the graphite nucleus -- but updated for today. You have your choice of solid, pearl, and urethane.
The Versa Max is supposed to be a winner and the Nexus balls are monsters, if you see enough oil for them.
Frankly, I am a fan of the 90s Brunswick stuff and the balls they are putting out today are top notch.
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The Versa Max is supposed to be a winner and the Nexus balls are monsters, if you see enough oil for them.
I liked the Versa Max alright, but just never saw it as others did. I also do think the Pearl Nexus is weaker than the Versa Max, but very similar. The Nexus series does have better cores and covers in them which is why I recommended him the Nexus. But the Versa would be similar in terms of line. I just personally preferred a weaker Nexus over the Versa.
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I was looking at some newer balls and was wondering about the following:
Any of the snake balls like pythonrattler, etc.
Loaded revolver is supposed to be a beast, but has a weak backend.
I will look at the versa.
But just all your opinions are helping me look for new equipment.
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I was looking at some newer balls and was wondering about the following:
Any of the snake balls like pythonrattler, etc.
Loaded revolver is supposed to be a beast, but has a weak backend.
I will look at the versa.
But just all your opinions are helping me look for new equipment.
Most of the Snake balls are mostly the same from what I've seen. The Loaded Revolver is a good ball to push the front and snap at the dry. Good for people on patterns like Cheetah who don't want to use a weak ball and play right. The Versa is good. Pushes through the oil real well, and snaps real hard with a great hit. If I were you, I'd look at some sort of Nexus (just very strong overall), a Wild Card (pushes through front better than any other ball, and hits harder than any other ball), and maybe a Karma for when both of those are too strong. Let me know if you have any more questions.
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Lol! Teen you keep pushing for the Wildcard. Its a good ball, but discontinued so good luck finding one NIB. The snake balls were not all the same. Python was good for dry, Rattler was a great medium piece mild off the spot. The diamondback was the jewel of the collect, in my opinion, as being the most versatile. It was a high rg symmetrical brunswick piece that backended with surface and had a great response in oil.
Now to get to the posters question. I like the c-system balls, especially for someone getting back into the game. The new Maxxed Out is a beast and probably the most versatile ball in the lineup. The Versa Max is great ball when you see a lot of friction in the backend. I think the Nexus balls might be a bit much, especially since you have a teal rhino, black ice zone and a Sabatoge. A Nexus Pearl would be the only ball i recommend for now until you get deeper into bowling and want more hook. The karma line is a must have for any fan of big b. It uses the danger zone and inferno covers from the past, giving you a somewhat similar look in a more controlled reaction.
If you're just looking to add, try the maxxed out first. It hooks a lot but continues the symmetrical theme you already have going. Lay it out strong so you get your money's worth and then go from there. The lanes you bowl on will dictate what you will need next. If the maxxed out hooks too much, you can go with the versa max or karma. Something stronger then think about something in the Nexus line.
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I would suggest getting a C*(System) maxxed-out and a C*(System) versa-max as a good 1-2 punch. Both of these balls take well to surface changes because of their solid coverstock. They can have surface put on them to smooth out the reaction or be polished to delay the hook downlane and give you more snap.
If you were looking for a similar reaction to the danger zone line, then the black/blue solid karma and the blue/green pearl karma would be a good compliment to each other. Another good reacting ball when there is defined friction is the pink/purple karma which is a little stronger than the blue/green pearl karma because of the different coverstock.
Good luck with your upcoming winter season!
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The Loaded Revolver is a good ball to push the front and snap at the dry. Good for people on patterns like Cheetah who don't want to use a weak ball and play right. The Versa is good. Pushes through the oil real well, and snaps real hard with a great hit. If I were you, I'd look at some sort of Nexus (just very strong overall), a Wild Card (pushes through front better than any other ball, and hits harder than any other ball), and maybe a Karma for when both of those are too strong. Let me know if you have any more questions.
A ball that saves a ton of energy for the back of the lane is the absolute last thing you want for Cheetah. And most of the time you don't necessarily want a weak ball for playing outside on a short pattern. I know you're trying to be helpful, but unless you have a lot of first hand experience, stick with what you do know.
For the OP, the Versa Max is a great ball to start with. It will be a very good first ball out of your bag and will be useful on a lot of conditions.
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Brunswick went to shit once they moved to Mexico.
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The Loaded Revolver is a good ball to push the front and snap at the dry. Good for people on patterns like Cheetah who don't want to use a weak ball and play right. The Versa is good. Pushes through the oil real well, and snaps real hard with a great hit. If I were you, I'd look at some sort of Nexus (just very strong overall), a Wild Card (pushes through front better than any other ball, and hits harder than any other ball), and maybe a Karma for when both of those are too strong. Let me know if you have any more questions.
A ball that saves a ton of energy for the back of the lane is the absolute last thing you want for Cheetah. And most of the time you don't necessarily want a weak ball for playing outside on a short pattern. I know you're trying to be helpful, but unless you have a lot of first hand experience, stick with what you do know.
For the OP, the Versa Max is a great ball to start with. It will be a very good first ball out of your bag and will be useful on a lot of conditions.
I'm trying to get through people who don't want to play far right like you're supposed to. Bowlers such as Rash still like to play REALLY far left and throw an aggressive ball like the Loaded than saves energy and snaps. And I do have some first hand knowledge. They have a PBA Regional every year here that they always play on Cheetah. Throughout the block I used a Midnight Vibe, and a Wild Card.
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Lol! Teen you keep pushing for the Wildcard. Its a good ball, but discontinued so good luck finding one NIB.
Haha. Yes. I'm still standing by what I said when it is one of the best Brunswick balls ever made!
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I have my eye on a wild card right now. It looks nice and i could really get it to do what i am comfortable doing.
I looked at the karma's, but am having a hard time understanding what color ones are best for me.
Any help?
Just to update, i am left handed and basically play straight up 10 to 45 ft and snap to the pocket. I do play a little swing when i need to, but the most i do is a 10 board swing, usually 15 to 5 or such
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I would give the Nexus F(P+F) a try. If the the out of box surface hooks too much for you, polish it. The ball is an absolute monster. For a ball that's pretty aggressive, it still get down the lane really well. I have 2 and used them on anything.
Brunswick has a lot of good balls out right now. People not trying any of them because they're made in Mexico or because they didn't like past equipment are missing out. 2nd to none right now.
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I would give the Nexus F(P+F) a try. If the the out of box surface hooks too much for you, polish it. The ball is an absolute monster. For a ball that's pretty aggressive, it still get down the lane really well. I have 2 and used them on anything.
Brunswick has a lot of good balls out right now. People not trying any of them because they're made in Mexico or because they didn't like past equipment are missing out. 2nd to none right now.
One of my opponents on a regular basis has one and he throws that ball about 10 mph faster because of the hook. He actually got both the nexus and the nexus pearl. I like the pearl because of the variety it allows you to play. As far as hitting, they seem to hit the same.
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Well, I was actually saying that without knowing your ball speed. The new Nexxxus also comes out Wednesday and it looks really good too. From what i saw of it, it is a little tamer than the Nexus solid.
It's really hard to give you a good recommendation without seeing you throw the ball or know the lane condition you're bowling on.
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Well, I was actually saying that without knowing your ball speed. The new Nexxxus also comes out Wednesday and it looks really good too. From what i saw of it, it is a little tamer than the Nexus solid.
It's really hard to give you a good recommendation without seeing you throw the ball or know the lane condition you're bowling on.
I was described as a left handed mix of brian voss and walter ray. Smooth delivery and excells playing the outside line.
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I was described as a left handed mix of brian voss and walter ray. Smooth delivery and excells playing the outside line.
Lefty,
Dont think thats what strap was asking for. He was talking about stats. Meaning speed, axis tilt, PAP, whether you're rev dominant or speed dominant, what lanes conditions you're bowling on. From there the layout and the ball are a lot easier to recommend. What you like to play is irrelevant. Where you play tonight to score, more than likely, will be different from where you played last week. Telling us who you are compared to is also irrelevant. That doesnt make me think of you, that makes me think of brian voss and WRW who, by the way, are at 2 completely different ends of the spectrum. They are as comparable as apples and oranges. Not trying to down or pick on you, but comparisons aint worth squat.
For example, for someone who is speed dominant and bowling on THS with a high tilt, I'd recommend a Nexus or Nexxus something strong core and cover to equalize the bowlers speed. With a low tilt a maxxed out with a mild layout or a Nexxxus with a benchmark layout and a little surface to get ball to read sooner.
For a bowler who is rev dominant (i want to get the ball to transition later), low tilt, I'd use a benchmark layout on a versa max with a light scuff or with a high tilt a karma solid with a mild layout and maybe surface it then use compound.
Stats help us help you by give us a better visual and most importantly,.... NUMBERS! Numbers allow us to plug and play so we can manipulate the ball to the bowlers attributes. Get me some numbers and I can get you an arsenal built.