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Title: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: FrontTwelv on December 31, 2008, 02:35:39 AM: has anyone experienced a good replacement for this ball. this has been my goto piece for awhile. its pretty beat up, and i want to replace it.

thanks!
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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: KDawg77 on December 31, 2008, 10:45:05 AM: Not that I have hands on experience, but I think the Smash Zone would be the first ball I'd pick to replace an Inferno. It's roughly the same core and roll pattern.
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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on December 31, 2008, 10:47:37 AM: I'm not sure how close the reaction is but you can find the Inferno remakes on eBay.
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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: mrbowlingnut on December 31, 2008, 10:58:13 AM: Rattler is same cover and less diff but will be close, I have the Smash Zone pretty good ball needed to haze the shine down very slightly with a white scotchbrite pad.

Now it reads much quicker and goes through carrydown better, it lost some of the extra snap it had which was actually good.

Edited on 12/31/2008 12:01 PM
Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: charlest on December 31, 2008, 02:17:20 PM: The Zone Classic has the same coverstock. If you drill it right (it has an asymmetric core), you can get very close to the same reaction.
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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: BrunsNick on December 31, 2008, 03:47:56 PM: I had a chance to throw the Rattler last night...

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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: TWOHAND834 on December 31, 2008, 05:28:36 PM: I believe that since the Rattler has the same cover, you could take that and use a stronger drilling from what you had in the Inferno to get a similar "look" on the lane. Remember, coverstock alone is 70% of ball reaction.
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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: FranVarin on December 31, 2008, 06:31:19 PM: I agree the Rattler may be a good choice but, since it is not available yet only time will tell. In terms of the Smash Zone, it has the same core but the Enmotion coverstock is much different than Activator...not worse but, different. It is not a one for one replacement albeit a good piece. The Zone Classic was very close but, hard to find these days. I would suggest grabbing one or two of the remakes and keep an eye on the Rattler.

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Fran
Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: dizzyfugu on January 01, 2009, 05:58:25 AM: quote:
Rattler is same cover and less diff but will be close, I have the Smash Zone pretty good ball needed to haze the shine down very slightly with a white scotchbrite pad.

Now it reads much quicker and goes through carrydown better, it lost some of the extra snap it had which was actually good.

Same here. Even though the SZ comes pretty close, it handles IMHO less oil than the OI and its coverstock is more responsive to the dry/allergic to oil. While it moves in a similar manner, it handles OOB less oil and is IMHO a bit itchy. Taking the polish away, either with Rough Buff or a high grit Abralon pad, makes it a nice medium condition ball, though.

The Rattler is another option - OI cover with a slightly weaker core from the BVP/Performance line. What I heard from the local test staff who just got the first balls, is that it was suprisingly angular for a Brunswick ball, snappier than the OI.
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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: FranVarin on January 01, 2009, 07:54:10 AM: Dizzy,
I agree, I think that is the nature of the Enmotion coverstock. I have the same issue with my Twisted Fury Perl. Overall, I actually prefer the SZ, I think the stronger core complements the coverstock better.

Fran
Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: BrunsBob on January 01, 2009, 08:30:20 AM: I you do want to go to the remakes that are available, it is exactly the same ball. If not, you will surely like the Rattler.

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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: FranVarin on January 01, 2009, 08:38:18 AM: Rob,
Thanks for responding. One curious question...how close in reaction is the Rattler to the Sidwinder Reactive. I have both versions of the Sidewinder and really love both of them. If I'm not mistaken the Reactive ended up being a hybrid. But, it seems to me that since the core is the same, I might expect a hard continuous move from the Sidewinder Reactive and a snappier more angular move from the Rattler.

Am I on the right track here?
Fran
Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: BrunsBob on January 01, 2009, 08:53:07 AM: Fran, you're on the right track.

Freakin, pretty much right on there except I see the Ultimate still much smoother downlane, even when shined. You are correct that a Rattler would need just a touch stronger layout, but the results look very similar.

RoB LaW

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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: FrontTwelv on January 01, 2009, 12:34:14 PM: quote:
My remake inferno is real similar to the original.
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where did you get this OI remake? I only see the Ultimate remakes avail.
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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: RSalas on January 01, 2009, 01:26:39 PM: quote:
My remake inferno is real similar to the original.

Mine wasn't...in fact, it wasn't similar to *either* of the original Infernos that I had. Both the later pour and the remake were substantially pushier and sharper at the break than the first Inferno that I got back in 2003.
Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: Burak Natal on January 02, 2009, 04:56:26 AM: quote:
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My remake inferno is real similar to the original.

Mine wasn't...in fact, it wasn't similar to *either* of the original Infernos that I had. Both the later pour and the remake were substantially pushier and sharper at the break than the first Inferno that I got back in 2003.

That's exactly what I see.
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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: dizzyfugu on January 02, 2009, 05:19:32 AM: quote:
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My remake inferno is real similar to the original.
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where did you get this OI remake? I only see the Ultimate remakes avail.
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Columbus, OH
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The overseas release? A couple of months ago, some OI remakes hit the local pro shops, and they sold well. They looked just like the 1st generation Inferno, but had also "Original" engraved in the logo.
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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: Crankenstein300 on January 02, 2009, 11:28:09 AM: Before those there were some that were sold I believe by Ace Mitchell. I picked one up last year as a backup to my OI which I hope never dies or cracks. Only difference in looks I see is a larger Activator logo and the swirls are less mixed. Have not drilled it to know the reaction difference yet.
Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: johns811 on January 02, 2009, 11:55:15 AM: I have a revolution Real speed which is supposed to be the same as original inferno except international release. 15lb NIB, 3" pin. PM me if interested.
Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 03, 2009, 06:51:05 AM: Is the Rattler going to be almost like the Sidewinders that came without particle?

REgards,

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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 04, 2009, 06:56:34 PM: Rattler = Sidewinder no particle?

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: TWOHAND834 on January 04, 2009, 07:59:47 PM: LL,

Yes. The Rattler has the Sidewinder core with the Inferno cover (Activator).
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Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: johns811 on January 04, 2009, 08:12:49 PM: I have an overseas release of the Original Inferno NIB. It is the Revolution Real Speed which is supposed to be the same ball.

PM me if interested.

Edited on 1/4/2009 9:17 PM
Title: Re: Original Inferno Replacement
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 06, 2009, 05:38:46 PM: Do those who have used both? See the reaction as similar.

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