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Title: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: Lane1Redneck on November 21, 2004, 07:10:24 AM
First.. I'm trying to figure out what would be the best way.. or what does Brunswick suggest on the proper way to get the oil out of this ball w/out doing any harm to it... Heard of baking , soaking , PLEASE.. need some ideas..


Next... When I got this ball... It was drilled like this... better if I make picture then try to explain... My question is .. how is this drilled ??
AGRESSIVE..WEAK...  not sure as to how to explain..

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just trying to figure out how/or for what conditions it was drilled for..
any ideas welcome...


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JEFF
Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: Lane1Redneck on November 21, 2004, 03:13:39 PM
ahhhh  that didn't get right..  


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  pin again is 2 1/2 inches from center of ring fingure to center of the pin

it's actually off more to the left of fingure then shown.....
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Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: agroves on November 21, 2004, 03:43:53 PM
like this:


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andrew
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Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: Lane1Redneck on November 21, 2004, 03:46:07 PM
Yes.. thats it.... LOL...  THANKS

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JEFF
Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: agroves on November 21, 2004, 03:54:06 PM
Are you a lefty or righty?
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Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: Lane1Redneck on November 21, 2004, 04:07:36 PM
AHHH... guess it helps to have all my friggen info here...
Yes.. I'm a lefty
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JEFF
Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: agroves on November 21, 2004, 04:14:06 PM
Thought so.  If you are a high track player(oil rings near fingers and thumb) this drilling should be your standard skid/flip.

Sorry dude, I never looked in your profile.

Andrew
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Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: Lane1Redneck on November 21, 2004, 04:33:44 PM
THANKS Andy... well the track marks are about 4" s or so from my thumb..

I'm trying to figure out if I should change it or not....
I first got the ball.. I was standing on 2nd dot.. rolling over 2nd arrow
went and purchased a Mongoose lifter wrist support
since then depending on lanes...
Middle dot,rolling over 2nd arrow
today I was 1 1/2 dots right off middle rolling over 2nd arrow...
is this due to dryer lane conditions or just the opposite ?  
sorry.. I'm not up with all this tech stuff yet.. never knew it was so involved. LOL..

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Bowling is the real X games

JEFF
Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: Lane1Redneck on November 21, 2004, 05:45:27 PM
thanks Drrev.. I'm learning more of it since being on here...
not really any problems per say.. was just wondering about my ball set-up as far as how it was drilled... My biggest question is what would be the best way of getting oil out of it... Read about baking/soaking.. Whats Brunswick recommended way without damaging my ball ?  Thats my biggest concern..
I wipe it off after every shot.. and clean it with Liquid Nitro when I'm done..
LOL.. I am trying to post my questions so as you guys can understand what the heck I'm asking...
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Bowling is the real X games

JEFF
Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: agroves on November 21, 2004, 06:11:25 PM
quote:
thanks Drrev.. I'm learning more of it since being on here...
not really any problems per say.. was just wondering about my ball set-up as far as how it was drilled... My biggest question is what would be the best way of getting oil out of it... Read about baking/soaking.. Whats Brunswick recommended way without damaging my ball ?  Thats my biggest concern..
I wipe it off after every shot.. and clean it with Liquid Nitro when I'm done..
LOL.. I am trying to post my questions so as you guys can understand what the heck I'm asking...
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Bowling is the real X games

JEFF


You really don't have to worry too much about oil absorbtion with this particular ball.  It is a "weaker" reactive resin which absorbs less oil than high load particles(goliath) and stronger resins(inferno line).  

I personally soak my balls in a large bucket with hot water but nothing near scolding.  I generally use water that I can put and keep my hand in.  The ball sits in the bucket for 15 minutes in, 15 out.  I put in fresh water and do it again.  I haven't had any problems up to this point.  I don't cover the finger/thumb holes, others do, whatever your preference is.  Just let the ball dry completely before use.

Andrew
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Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: charlest on November 21, 2004, 06:34:27 PM
agroves/Andrew,

Redneck's subject is the "Proactive P.G.", not the pearl resin. I suppose it could be the Plum Pearl proactive, but it could also be the black solid dull (400 grit) particle. The black should absorb oil like a freakng sponge absorbs water!

Redneck, which "proactive" PG do you have?
agroves describes part of the water & dishsoap method. Many pro shops also have oil extraction machines. Ask around your local centers and see if any local pro shops have one. It should be $20 - 25. Some pro shops have the Ebonite "Hook Again" set-up which might also work.

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Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: agroves on November 21, 2004, 06:40:52 PM
Duh, disregard what I said about this ball being a weaker resin.  

andrew
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Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: Lane1Redneck on November 21, 2004, 08:17:23 PM
Sorry gang for once again not given all the details... bare with me.. i'm a newbie here and to bowling in general...BUT.. I'm learning allot here from all of you guys since I've got here....

OK.. Yes it is the black sparkle PG.. {400 grit wet sanded}
agroves.. I did find out that it is drilled for heavy oil.. according to the chart brunswick has on it...  1L  flipped for LH

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THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE...hope I don't make to many of you mad for my lack of info and or terms and stuff here.. I know I'm way out my league here for sure...
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Bowling is the real X games

JEFF
Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on November 21, 2004, 08:31:36 PM
That drilling is basically a skid/snap drilling, to get the ball down the lane with a strong backend reaction. As for soaking it, just put it in hot water (sink, bucket, bath tub) with some dish soap, just as long as the water is not too hot for you hand, its ok for the ball. I leave mine in for half an hour, take it out, wipe it down with a towel and simple green (or any house hold cleaner) and put new, hot water back in the tub, and do another half an hour, and clean it again, then let it dry.
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Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: Lane1Redneck on November 22, 2004, 03:22:58 AM
Thanks again for all the advice... I will check into the ebonite system...
Not into baking... Soaking with my type of ball I'm still not sure of..
my balls like a sponge I read here.. So,for the first try I will try that drrev..  thanks again for barring with me...  
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Bowling is the real X games

JEFF
Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: charlest on November 22, 2004, 05:22:56 AM
Redneck,

Ok, the guys have given you plenty of advice on how to do some oil extraction. I strongly urge you, given this ball's VERY rough surface, to buy several micro-fiber towels to wipe off your ball after every toss. By the way, unless you need that strong surface because you throw less revs OR you face a lot of oil, I'd suggest you could make it more controllable (hook a little less) by adding as slight polish to it.

Micro-fiber towels are available all over the place: Costco, BJs, Home Depot, K-mart, Wal-Mart. They should be farily cheap, like $1.00 each in bundles of 5 to 20. Make sure you get the ones that are labeled, 70% polyester, 30% polyamide. They absorb great. The ones that are labelled 100% polyester are great for cleaning but do not absorb anything. Wash them with plain laundry soap; do not use fabric softeners or anti-static stuff like Bounce.
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Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: Lane1Redneck on November 22, 2004, 01:07:33 PM
Thanks Charlest.. I was thinking of given it a light polish... If I put it in one of the polishing machines at the lowest setting {lightest setting} time wise spent in the polisher, would that be plenty to take some of the hook out?  Bowled Sunday.. was standing on 23 rolling to 9-10 to get it to the hole.. I was actually doing ok with that.. hit a tone when it was on... did well for me that is.. 181-172-179... just was missing some spares.. Like I said.. was thinking of taming it down some..

THANKS for you advice.. I will get some of those cloths tho.. been wiping it down,but just with regular towel...
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Bowling is the real X games

JEFF
Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: SrKegler on November 22, 2004, 01:30:07 PM
I recommend you DO NOT USE the ball polishing machine at the local alleys.  You're never really sure what is in them.  Wax or polishing compound.

Buy a small bottle of polish and apply it yourself.  No sense taking a chance of ruining the ball.
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Title: Re: Proactive Power Groove... need some help please ???
Post by: Lane1Redneck on November 22, 2004, 01:47:33 PM
THANKS... I don't wan't to do that..
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Bowling is the real X games

JEFF