Post by: FastTracker33 on December 15, 2007, 03:35:00 AM
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Post by: FastTracker33 on December 15, 2007, 11:50:07 AM
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No different than the Original. This one is easier to get longer pin outs if you desire those for a layout. Same cover, same core, same weak reaction on todays lane conditions. Good ball for unplayable wet/dry, or conditions where you need it to get through the heads clean and not over react.
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.. and that's exactly what I need!
What kind of layout should I put on one if I get it? Are these balls easy to get?
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Post by: FastTracker33 on December 15, 2007, 12:17:09 PM
For this ball, all I want it to do is push, and NOT, NOT, NOT, NOT jump. LOL
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Post by: charlest on December 15, 2007, 12:37:18 PM
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Post by: J_Mac on December 15, 2007, 12:40:20 PM
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This was a VERY mild ball back in 1995/6 when I needed one. This is what my pro shop gave me. Wonder how it compares to the Power Groove Dry/R?
Listed at BBR.com as being low RG and only having a differential of 0.015. That makes it about as flare capable as most 3 piece balls...
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Post by: FastTracker33 on December 15, 2007, 12:51:56 PM
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The biggest appeal of this ball is the core in it and how little it flares just like a 3 pc pancake ball. Since it's a solid it's less likely to act squirty as some of the pearlized beginner 3pcs balls do today.
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Bowling, a simple game that has been made difficult by humans.
So it should be a good ball for these flying backends at my center? When I say "flying", I truly mean FLYING backends. Everything hooks!! LOL.
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Post by: charlest on December 15, 2007, 12:54:20 PM
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Post by: FastTracker33 on December 15, 2007, 12:56:50 PM
I'm just so mad because I keep buying balls to control backends and all they do is hook more!! LOL. I'm just hoping this is my last purchase in trying to fix up my arsenal. My average is really taking a beating :/.
Is this made in.... USA???
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Post by: charlest on December 15, 2007, 01:05:17 PM
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OK OK. LOL.
I'm just so mad because I keep buying balls to control backends and all they do is hook more!! LOL.
Had you tried a Visionary Blue/Green Centaur or a Slate Blue Gaygoyle?
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I'm just hoping this is my last purchase in trying to fix up my arsenal. My average is really taking a beating :/.
If you're really worried about backend, put the pin below the middle finger. That reduces the backend on virtually every ball. That should be fine with your PAP. Hell's bells, put the pin on the negative side of the middle finger for that matter.
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Is this made in.... USA???
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Depends on whether it was made before or after the move; does it really matter? You'll see when the ball gets to you.
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Post by: SKC on December 15, 2007, 01:15:47 PM
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OK OK. LOL.
I'm just so mad because I keep buying balls to control backends and all they do is hook more!! LOL. I'm just hoping this is my last purchase in trying to fix up my arsenal. My average is really taking a beating :/.
Is this made in.... USA???
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I'm sorry.. But you post that you want a ball to controll the backend.. But you also want the ball to push? To me that doesn't make sense as that will retain too much energy till further down lane and increase the chance for your ball to jump in the back.. Put the pin down, place the pin closer to your PAP or take the surface down.. All to take out the backend.. Those would be my suggestions..
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Post by: FastTracker33 on December 15, 2007, 01:16:21 PM
I asked Beans with my Orbit, if I should/could put the pin above or below the middle finger, and he said I would have a problem with possibly tracking over the fingers because of my style. So i'm not sure on doing that one.
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Edited on 12/15/2007 2:16 PM
Post by: FastTracker33 on December 15, 2007, 01:19:47 PM
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OK OK. LOL.
I'm just so mad because I keep buying balls to control backends and all they do is hook more!! LOL. I'm just hoping this is my last purchase in trying to fix up my arsenal. My average is really taking a beating :/.
Is this made in.... USA???
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http://BeansProShop.com
Home of the Secret Sauce!
I'm sorry.. But you post that you want a ball to controll the backend.. But you also want the ball to push? To me that doesn't make sense as that will retain too much energy till further down lane and increase the chance for your ball to jump in the back.. Put the pin down, place the pin closer to your PAP or take the surface down.. All to take out the backend.. Those would be my suggestions..
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Aggression is an attitude, not an emotion...
My next step is putting the pin down if I don't buy a new ball, which i'm still unsure of. I want a ball to push as well as being controllable in the back because sometimes the heads go, and my weakest ball (Orbit Extreme) revs up too fast, and jumps on the backend. When I get my Orbit drilled sarge easter, i'll sand it down to 1000, or 2000, or something.
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Post by: Joe Jr on December 15, 2007, 01:24:35 PM
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Post by: SKC on December 15, 2007, 01:35:56 PM
Or......... Polish the hell outta that Orbit Xtreme.. And then sand your backflares.. Should tame the back for you..
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Post by: MegaMav on December 15, 2007, 02:24:32 PM
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And then sand your backflares.. Should tame the back for you..
... thats almost legal
Post by: J_Mac on December 15, 2007, 02:31:23 PM
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Be sure the number's on the box match the ball, I bought 1 of these Re-make Rhinos' 6 months ago, I ordered a 14.3 with 2-3 Pin & 2-3 Top and according to the Box, that is what I received right, we drilled it Pin above the bridge and the Cg on the grip line, the ball should have had a final drilled weight of 14.0 and nearly zero finger weight, instead, this ball still had in excess of 1.2 ounces of Finger weight, guess what, the Cg was totally mis-marked, instead of a 2-3 Pin, it was closer to a 5 inch pin, if I drilled the fingers deeper to remove the Finger weight, I would have ended up with a heavy 13 pound Purple Rhino, so I dumped it and I have not drilled another Made In Mexico ball!
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Uh... if the pin out was 5" wouldn't that put the excess weight in the thumb side, not the fingers?
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Post by: SKC on December 15, 2007, 02:39:34 PM
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And then sand your backflares.. Should tame the back for you..
... thats almost legal
True..
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Post by: MegaMav on December 15, 2007, 02:44:46 PM
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Not a very plausible argument.
Lets be realistic here Ric, he could have a 9" span.
Post by: yoder978 on December 15, 2007, 04:15:38 PM
Post by: 302efi on December 15, 2007, 04:23:16 PM
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First of all it your responsibility to weigh the ball before drilling.
So whats printed on the box is not right ?
Why would a compay print the wrong info on the box ?
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.
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Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
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Post by: CPA on December 15, 2007, 09:19:06 PM
Sounds like the remake might be a good ball for the Cheetah pattern on wood surfaces.
Post by: Crankenstein300 on December 16, 2007, 09:58:44 PM