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agroves

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Question on Slay/r
« on: February 15, 2005, 09:57:43 PM »
What do you guys think of a pin above middle finger, roughly 6 from pap, with the cg stacked below the MIDDLE finger?

I was thinking about trying this, has anyone else?

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Jeff The Chef

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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2005, 06:39:23 AM »
I too was thinking about this, and actually made a post asking about it in the drilling and layouts section. I have pretty much decided that I am going to plug and re-drill my Slay'R like this, but would like to see if you get any different comments from the ones I got.

Here's the link to my post:
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=75944&ForumID=18&CategoryID=5
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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2005, 07:03:46 AM »
Thanks for the link, were you planning on putting the cg the same place as I was, stacked under the middle finger?

I think C. Barnes used this one time for drier conditions, I just thought I might give it a try.  

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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2005, 07:13:16 AM »
6 inches from your PAP...well I am not totally sure. I am THINKING it will give you a decent semi-strong arc.
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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2005, 08:01:00 AM »
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Thanks for the link, were you planning on putting the cg the same place as I was, stacked under the middle finger?


Yes, I was intending to stack the cg.

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I think C. Barnes used this one time for drier conditions, I just thought I might give it a try


I am pretty much in the same boat here. I saw a local player using that layout on one of the Sonic series balls from Rotogrip with great success and figured it may work for me as well, since the current layout on my Slay'R just wasn't cutting it.
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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2005, 08:55:02 AM »
mine is drilled pin above middle finger with cg under my ring finger, only like 2in. pin.  My ball goes forever and makes a smooth small turn in the back.  Lease hooking ball by far.  I can't use it unless it's like the 8th game of a tournament.
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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2005, 11:57:06 AM »
Many people have complained that their SlayR is very flippy.I believe they drilled as you are suggesting Andrew.

Seeing, as the cover is WEAK!, I stacked mine with the pin just below and exactly between the finger holes, with the CG stacked immediately below it (pin-CG distance is 2 5/8") Mine goes long on dry to medium-heavy (much more direct line, of course), it never does flip, just sort of nicely turns the corner and is so usable, it's disgusting. I keep trying to use different balls, some slightly stronger, some weaker and I keep scoring worse; this is the ball for me currently. I can swing it or I can go VERY direct (had to recently and scored fairly decently - 695, on what for me has been very difficult lanes this year.)
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agroves

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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2005, 12:09:00 PM »
Charlest, thanks for chiming in.  I thought it would be too flippy also.  Every resin I throw seems to aggressive for drier heads no matter how it is drilled.  I am not comfortable playing 25 and further left, but sometimes I have to.  I want something that isn't going to jump and every resin seems to do that for me.  

Maybe its time for a slate blue gargoyle.

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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2005, 02:41:10 PM »
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Charlest, thanks for chiming in.  I thought it would be too flippy also.  Every resin I throw seems to aggressive for drier heads no matter how it is drilled.  I am not comfortable playing 25 and further left, but sometimes I have to.  I want something that isn't going to jump and every resin seems to do that for me.  

Maybe its time for a slate blue gargoyle.

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I just picked up an original Sonic-X pearl in my quest not to use my Slate Blue Gargoyle, as an alternative to the Slay/R. Not sure why I feel like I don't want to use the urethane; just mentally uncomfortable with it, although it can be very useful.) Maybe, if you have more hand and more ball speed than I do, you can get comfortable with it. Just put the pin above the bridge or ring finger; RG is too low and even pearlized urethane can be early.
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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2005, 07:52:02 PM »
Thanks, I still might buy a slate blue though.  Unless of course, bwick comes out with one....

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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2005, 07:53:23 PM »
Hey andrew, you should mention that to Brunswick.  I'm sure a LOT of people wanta  urethane with a dynamic core.
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agroves

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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2005, 08:07:17 PM »
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Hey andrew, you should mention that to Brunswick.  I'm sure a LOT of people wanta  urethane with a dynamic core.
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I would love to see the II core in a pearl urethane!

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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2005, 08:08:06 PM »
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Hey andrew, you should mention that to Brunswick.  I'm sure a LOT of people wanta  urethane with a dynamic core.
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I would love to see the II core in a pearl urethane!

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Yeah, that would be real nice!!!
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Re: Question on Slay/r
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2005, 08:46:34 PM »
rick benoit helped me with this ball before i bought it. he told me the coverstock really needs dry to get it to move so don't be afraid to drill it to your preference. for me, thats putting the pin next to and even with the bottom of the ring finger with the cg swung towards the center of the grip( just enough to avoid a balance hole). i keep the coverstock very smooth( wetsanded 4,000 grit abralon and brunswick polish ). i'm don't seeing a skid/flip type reaction but thats probably due to my low rev rate and weaker release.
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