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YeahHossNV

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Actual Radical pics
« on: June 30, 2006, 06:31:58 PM »
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BallsDeep

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Re: Actual Radical pics
« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2006, 08:08:15 PM »
First of all I have seen the Red with my own eyes and as you mentioned a strike zone also, as I had two of them.  I see a slight difference in reaction, but its hard for me not to think my eyes are deceiving me or just attribute it to the fact that they're fresh.  I have yet to see a difference with the Wizard as compared with the Nemesis.

Saying that there is a slight difference in the makeup of the cover would be enough.  Perhaps there is a slight hint of pearl, or at least something to differentiate the Strike from the Red.  For example, Mo has made it known that the C4 enhanced reactive is a modified pk 18, modified to provide more friction and overall hook.  The C4 enhanced reactive is also said to have been fine tuned for each of the balls its been on.  That the TS&A C4 is stronger than the TA C4 is a fact that Mo has passed on through numerous pro shops, and has filtered down to the more interested of us.

If Rich or some other tech were to say that the cover was altered from the Activator on the Strike would satisfy my thirst for knowledge and spurr me on to watch more of them being thrown and to consider it as a possible future ball choice.
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Re: Actual Radical pics
« Reply #47 on: July 05, 2006, 08:23:15 PM »
Ummmmmm.....I thought this was a post about the Radical pics?  Save that Red Zone vs Strike Zone for somewhere else.
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Re: Actual Radical pics
« Reply #48 on: July 05, 2006, 08:34:43 PM »
this is you leaving applegam ---> Leave
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Joe Jr

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Re: Actual Radical pics
« Reply #49 on: July 06, 2006, 11:08:00 PM »
I think twoheadedboy has a valid point. The Red Zone has the same cover and core as the Strike Zone, so one would assume that since the they have identical coverstocks as noted on Brunswick's website and around the web, they are the same ball. Wouldn't that be the correct assumption? Now Ric has come on here and said that they react different, ok fine, would you(Ric or anyone from Brunswick) kind enough to tell us why they react different? Is the coverstock tweaked? Is color making the difference? Is it because there being made in the new equipment?

That's all we'd like to know.

Either way, there's a Red Zone in the shop with my name on it, waiting to be drilled, and depending how I do this weekend, I might just drill the other one.
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BallsDeep

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Re: Actual Radical pics
« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2006, 09:33:08 AM »
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Re: Actual Radical pics
« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2006, 09:49:56 AM »
A word to the wise.  If you're waiting for the Brunswick product specialists to respond, you may be waiting a bit.  I believe both BrunsRicH and BrunsBob are in Vegas for the Mini Eliminator right now.
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BallsDeep

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Re: Actual Radical pics
« Reply #52 on: July 07, 2006, 10:11:05 AM »
Yeah, I remember a post about that before.  While I'd like to have rich respond, any Brunswick Tech would be fine, and I'm pretty sure that they have computers in Vegas
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Re: Actual Radical pics
« Reply #53 on: July 07, 2006, 10:56:33 AM »
I would take a guess and say that if there are differences between the RZ/SZ and Nemesis/Wizard it's because of a slightly different chemical composition with the new factory.  Maybe they tweaked it slightly as an enhancement (makes sense since it's a new factory) but the base is still Activator.  Or maybe the tolerances for mixing at the new factory is slightly different and or tighter?  Or it could simply be the pigmentation differences?  I've been told several times by key insiders that color does make a difference albeit probably small.  I remember the AMF XS.  I saw Danny Wiseman throw the prototype (it was black) and it hooked a ton.  But when the real white model came out it was a dud.  I later found out that it was because of the white pigment which is why they came out with the Black XS.  


As I think back over my favorite balls, most of my favorite smoother reacting balls were dark colored..black/purple/blue.  Balls like the Blue Aftershock, Rhino Pro LE, RSX, Classic Zone, Arsenal Agressive, Purple Beast, V2, LT 48.  The more skid/snap balls were red based.  Maybe just a coincidence  but could this tidbit alone cause a difference in reaction between the RZ/SZ? Don't know.  I'm a Software Engineer, not a Chemical but it would be interesting to know.

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BallsDeep

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Re: Actual Radical pics
« Reply #54 on: July 07, 2006, 11:59:08 AM »
These are interesting speculations, but, I'd like to hear it from a tech like I said.  It appears that they have different reactions, but its not something that is easy to commant on.  Very few people I know are still punching the Strike, so most of them are old and as a ball gets old the backend reaction is reduced.  If I could see a fresh Red Polished and a Fresh Strike polished I could compare but I don't know anyone like this.
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Re: Actual Radical pics
« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2006, 02:41:02 PM »
just pre-ordered mine along with a red zone
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BallsDeep

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Re: Actual Radical pics
« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2006, 12:00:17 AM »
Back from the big event?, ttt
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