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i_like_chicken

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Anyone ever Rico a Smokin'
« on: June 24, 2006, 03:11:24 PM »
Subject says it all. What kinda reaction and im gonna get. This is my first Rico so any input would b apreciated. Not really goona with thats and stuff like that basically all i can tell you about my style is im a stroker with medium tilt, like 17 degress i think was measure, medium revs, and about 16 mph ball speed. Thanks

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i_like_chicken

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Re: Anyone ever Rico a Smokin'
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2006, 11:52:23 PM »
Well thats basically what i was lookin for. Mainly lookin to use this on shorter sport patterns and at a few houses i bowl in my tournment circuit that always have too much backend for me. I've tried like conventional drillings for drier stuff and i cant seem to find anythign that matches well for me.

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Re: Anyone ever Rico a Smokin'
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2006, 12:09:25 AM »
This drilling will not always cause the ball to roll early. Actually on the 2 balls i've drilled like this, my reactions have been the opposite, the balls rev'ed up quickly but still kept there length. My Punisher is still extremely long even with 2000Grit finish but it has a more controlled backend reaction. The Absolute on the other hand was clean through the front and mids and extremely angular on the backend.
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i_like_chicken

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Re: Anyone ever Rico a Smokin'
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2006, 12:14:52 AM »
Hmm could be interesting. My driller recomended it for me as a way to combat drier lanes. My driller is also not the kind of person to sell you a ball you dotn need. He hates seein juniors with more bowling balls than they need, and he'll drill anything you want, but he'll also tell you if its worth it or what your best option is. Its a family run lane. His brothers owns the lanes and his parents run the major events and next weeks they are running a 5 day camp. Basically 6 hours of bowling for 5 days, on 5 different sport condition on a lane with 2 people. So since this seems to be 50/50 at the moment ill give results monday night

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Re: Anyone ever Rico a Smokin'
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2006, 11:36:29 AM »
One major thing I have noticed is people are not discussing their PAP. For me to get the similiar reaction out of Rico, I have to modify it by moving the pin up an inch and to the right 2 inches. So, if you don't want it to be a dud, what is your PAP first off?
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Re: Anyone ever Rico a Smokin'
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2006, 10:26:53 AM »
Thatcher....I know who you are.  You bowl in my center and RICO will be fine for what you're looking to accomplish.

If you have any questions...I suggest you see the big guy behind the counter.  He is another solid source of info for you.

Lastly DJ...remember....CG Matters

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Re: Anyone ever Rico a Smokin'
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2006, 08:48:38 PM »
Finally got it today and tried it out. First shot i bowled on was a 32 foot flat oil shot. With it having stripped backend everything was flying in the back. I had to swing the lane with my Sahahra. So took a break and got it punched up, boy was im impressed. Where everyone else had to play gutter or swing the lane i was able to play a simple 10 to 10 lines and with the smoother backend it eliminated some of the over uner i was getting. Later tried it on a house shot. Kids had bowled on it so i couldnt play a middle line liek i like to so i bumped straignt down 3 and had a great read without getting jumpy like everything else i own when  i try to play that far outside. Definatly am happy with this choice and i dont htink this is ognna be a dud like some people predicted.

Also gotta ask CG, are you someone else thats knows the big guy, or are you the big guy

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Re: Anyone ever Rico a Smokin'
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2006, 09:09:03 PM »
Not to highjack, but I too just got an Absolute drilled Rico from Dave300 here on BR(ball looked great by the way)I was too surprised at how the ball did not overreact on the backend. I have 3 other absolutes so I took them all out and used them for a few hours to see the difference. I used this rico drilled one for all 3 games in league tonight. Where others had to get in and swing it I could pretty much go up the boards and the carry was great. Glad I tried it.

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Re: Anyone ever Rico a Smokin'
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2006, 10:01:16 PM »
Since rico is in the middle of the grip, often times it is rather far from one's pap, and on symmetric stuff like the smokin' a large pin to pap will increase length.  If worried about too early a read one can just move the pin up and increase length.  

The rico drill is in many ways a bit over used of a term.  Putting the pin in the cog will react very differently for alot of people dependent on one's pap.  Assuming that a typical pap is around 4" over and 0 up/down, rico will provide a fairly early rolling, med/high hook potential with good continuation.  To get the rico like ball motion with a different pap one should be able to move the pin right if they have a large distance over pap (assuming right handed), and if one's pap is less distance over the pin left.  

Although I have no real experience with the "rico drill" or 0" pin above mid drills, what I have here should be correct unless there is some factor that I'm overlooking.

Nick does seem to have a good ammount of experience with this drill and perhaps he can chime in on "the smokin' with rico" issue and also my assumption.
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Re: Anyone ever Rico a Smokin'
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2006, 11:01:58 PM »
I think that what I wrote is correct and rico on the smokin wouldn't be too bad.  Really any drilling on any ball will work for somebody, whether the traditional rico drill and the Smokin' will work for you is a matter that you and your ball driller will have to figure out.  If you post your specs you can get a general idea from somebody on here.
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