I have a Green Pin drilled 5 3/4" above by 60 degrees, and a Red Pin drilled 5" above by 60 degrees, and the Red Pin is about four or five boards weaker overall than the Green Pin. The reaction shapes of both balls are nearly identical, but there's just a lot less reaction with the Red Pin.
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