thank you, i didn't even think about looking at online shops. i've got the zc dulled just a little, maybe 800, and i'm not changing it, first night i threw it i shot 290, so that'll stay that way. you think a punisher would be good? or a dry/r? also, does the intense fit just above it? i've got other stuff if you're wondering why i've got all pearls. lol.