In my opinion both "Frankie Abralon" and "charlest" both bring up very good points.

On one hand, can the "average bowler" see much change in how his ball reacts at 280 vs. 400?    The average bowler has a tough time hitting target three times straight (myself included). By the time the Rough Buff compound is applied, it may be difficult to tell just how much earlier one ball reads the lane than the other unless C.A.T.S. was used.

The point that "charlest" made regarding "quantifying it" is also valid. With a compound (as opposed to a polish) the end result can vary greatly based on spinner speed used, hand pressure applied, and time spend on the process. Also, before applying the compound, did the operator shake the bottle to mix it well, or did he get the "runny stuff" off the top? So many variables...

charlest, I respect your opinion and judgement on this topic. You have demonstrated your expertise to me many times, and I tend to agree with your experience way more often than not. So, am I missing something?

Frankie and charlest, is there any reason why both points can't be (at least somewhat) correct?  

I certainly don't have ALL the answers, that's why I am asking.




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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Amateur Staff
www.brunswickbowling.com

Edited on 12/10/2008 7:19 PM

Quote: "How much of a difference will depend on the "49" different factors and how good an "eye" the bowler has."

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Thanks, charlest. I know the Brunswick R&D department felt there would be a difference (or why bother?). AND the Twisted was designed to be played close to friction, so by having less surface under the Rough Buff, it would help the ball get the length needed to play there.

I'm just trying to draw out more information, where possible, for my benefit, and others who may be reading along but are not responding. You are a plethora of knowledge on the subject. I'm definitely the "surface freak" around here, but as much as I have learned, I feel there is still much more to be learned.

Have you ever been asked to watch "bowler X" out on the lanes and give some advice?  I'm out there all the time. Maybe because I'm fairly patient with people, and can communicate ideas better face-to-face than some, but often times "bowler X" thinks he's rolling the ball over 8 board when it's sometimes anywhere between 6 board and 11 board. He's looking at the same target, but he's sliding at a slightly different spot on the approach each time...

And that's what I was trying to get at without being disrespectful to any person here. The average bowler thinks he's more precise than he actually is. Even the best bowlers find that a lesson on C.A.T.S. is a very humbling experience. Because even when we do hit our target, we might miss the release, or throw it faster, or slower, etc.  Today's equipment and lane conditions have made it so we don't need to be "exact" for the most part.

As always, I appreciate your willingness to share your vast experience on the website.

To everyone, lets keep the site a place where we can learn from each other  without the negative tones that seem to be so prevalent at times. My 2 cents.

 


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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Amateur Staff
www.brunswickbowling.com

CharlesT


I have been looking for some information on how to match grits between sandpaper and Abralon. I seems from your response that you may have the info I need...it would be much appreciated if you do.

Thanks,
Fran