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dizzyfugu

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Revolution Renegade... any experience or infos?
« on: April 18, 2007, 09:33:37 PM »
Hi, since it is a Brunswick ball in disguise, I'd ask here for it.

I have the opportunity to get a virgin 15lbs. Renegade (http://www.123bowl.com/ball.asp?ballid=1023) with a 4-5" pin, top weight unknown, for relatively low money.

I did some legwork, and as far as I was able to figure out it is a ball for lighter conditions with solid PK17D coverstock, probably falling between a Power Groove and the Rampage in strength. I am considering this piece with some sheen surface and a weak drilling (pin above bridge) as an alternative to my Sahara and Pure Hammer.

Has anyone (except for the single review) experience with this piece, or can tell something about the PK17D which was also used on the Battle Zones? Is it just a weaker version of PK17 (similar to the Dry/R coverstock), or can I basically expect more length but also more pop once the ball hits the dry?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you in advance.

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Edited on 4/19/2007 5:32 AM
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charlest

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Re: Revolution Renegade... any experience or infos?
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2007, 03:06:25 PM »
quote:
FYI

If interested I still have a load of
NIB 16# Renegades and Vegenances.   Also
have a few left of the IZEs and a IST.


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dizzyfugu

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Re: Revolution Renegade... any experience or infos?
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2007, 03:10:36 AM »
Ha ha, nice to see that "old stuff" still makes nervous
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Re: Revolution Renegade... any experience or infos?
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2007, 02:06:46 PM »
My precioussss... I finally got it: NIB, just some scars from being kicked around a bit. 3.5" pin, sweet...

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5351648 (CG mark colored in red)

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5351647

Man, this ball lokks so DULL. Solid ocean blue (much like an Impulse Zone prototype?), only 2 engravings. True stealth!

And the surface finish... well, if this is OOB, I must say that it is neither a high gloss polish nor a sanded surface. You cannot see any sanding lines under the finish, yet it feels and looks rather sheen. Maybe a compound finish, one of the few Brunswick balls in the 2000 era that went "single buff"?
"600 base grit plus some light polish?" Hmmm. At least, looks and feels interesting and should yield with a PK18 derivate good traction. I guess I'll keep it this way, or even apply a true high grit base plus polish to play outside lines with it.

Can't wait to punch it up, nbut I guess I'll wait until my Awesome Finish arrives. And I also cannot wait to see the face of my ball driller when I unveil this "blast from the past"...
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Re: Revolution Renegade... any experience or infos?
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2007, 06:39:44 PM »
Dizzy,

All the info says the surface is 600 grit. Believe me it acts like it.

AGain, I guarantee it's stronger than PK 17. I can't tell you the nitty gritty details, if needs be. I suspect it is stronger than PK 18, but smoother like PK 17. (PK 18 is flippy.)

You can put any finish on it that you like. Sanding: 8000, 1000, 1500, 2000 etc. And any level of polishing.

Aince RG diff is relatively low, keep the pin-PAP distance 5" or less and 3" or more. 4" - 4.5" is good. Mine is at 5" but under the center of the bridge,

This ball is MONEY!


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