Post by: Redline on June 24, 2008, 07:09:12 AM
I wanted something a bit more angular that I could open up the lanes with once the track area has been blown open and there's a good area to throw at.
After watching some videos I'm pretty sure the Radical would be the go to ball for this.
Only thing that concerns that me is that people have mixed feelings on this ball. I keep reading that this ball is inconsistent in its reaction, has bad carry, etc.
So yah...I justed wanted some thoughts as to whether or not this is a good ball for the job.
Post by: BrunsNick on June 24, 2008, 03:13:16 PM
I might consider drilling another with the Sarge grip, I thought the ball was money.
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Post by: shelley on June 24, 2008, 03:18:14 PM
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Post by: RSalas on June 24, 2008, 03:25:05 PM
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I wanted something a bit more angular that I could open up the lanes with once the track area has been blown open and there's a good area to throw at.
FWIW, that's what I use *my* Radical for.
One caveat, though: The Radical *hates* oil down lane. But if you can hook around the push, you should be fine.
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Post by: on June 24, 2008, 03:30:01 PM
The Radical was also pretty angular, but I like my Swarm better.
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Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on June 24, 2008, 03:36:20 PM
I've seen a couple people use it with success, but they were mostly guys with spinner type releases.
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Post by: OddBalls on June 24, 2008, 03:40:33 PM
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I bought a Radical. I loved the Inferno line, so I figured I had to get this one as well...for me, sadly, it went long....very long....and just kept going.
I've seen a couple people use it with success, but they were mostly guys with spinner type releases.
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Post by: Redline on June 24, 2008, 03:54:49 PM
As far as recommendations for something with PK18...that cover hasn't worked well. I've owned the rampage and have the avalanche solid...and I didn't match up well with it, thus am hesitant to get the swarm.
Though I've loved every inferno I've owned, plus my proshop has a new one sitting on the shelves...so I think I just may have to get it.
Post by: Joe Jr on June 24, 2008, 06:01:27 PM
JMHO
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Post by: shelley on June 24, 2008, 06:21:44 PM
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Thought the Radical was one of the worst balls Brunswick's put out in years.
Compared to most of the rest of the Infernos, it seems to have been more hit-and-miss for most bowlers. Some loved it, some hated it. The ones I saw were, as Bracket Creep said, very very sensitive to oil downlane.
SH
Post by: Joe Jr on June 24, 2008, 06:54:50 PM
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Thought the Radical was one of the worst balls Brunswick's put out in years.
Compared to most of the rest of the Infernos, it seems to have been more hit-and-miss for most bowlers. Some loved it, some hated it. The ones I saw were, as Bracket Creep said, very very sensitive to oil downlane.
SH
Mine was the most condition specific ball I ever owned. At the slightest amount oil downlane the ball freakin hydroplaned and backed up yet it died the second it hit any friction, I never saw anything like it.
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Post by: RSalas on June 24, 2008, 07:00:41 PM
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Post by: notsohotshot on June 25, 2008, 12:01:16 AM
Post by: Redline on June 25, 2008, 12:33:35 AM
I didn't end up getting it tonight...some of the later remarks have me worried a bit. I do bowl on older synthetics...but with so much oil against so much dry...carry down does become a problem, and there is an out of bounds as well if I get the ball too far out.
So I am hoping this ball may be enough to get it back if I need to swing it. Most of the stuff I have checks up a bit too early for me.
But the whole issue with oil in the backends worries me a bit. In retrospect, most equipment nowadays will always have some issue with that.
I guess I will mull it over a bit more.
Post by: zone on June 25, 2008, 12:52:11 AM
http://s122.photobucket.com/albums/o267/lancerontrack/?action=view¤t=tylerbowling_0002.flv
it was a nice hitting ball but could be kinda picky on what lane condition it was going to perform on.
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Post by: lsf_21 on June 25, 2008, 01:13:12 AM
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Thought the Radical was one of the worst balls Brunswick's put out in years.
JMHO
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Post by: dizzyfugu on June 25, 2008, 02:17:56 AM
It would handle less oil than advertised - with a glossy surface, it was a very good ball for medium to medium-dry lanes and also for later games on broken-up lanes. Not a carrydown ball, but its low RG would help it roll easily on spotty back end areas.
Good thing is that with some surface tuning (normally getting rid of the OOB shine) made the ball more useable and easier to control. 4.000 Abralon made a compleetly different ball out of it for a friend of mine who was also very confused and disappointed with it.
Finally, from my pro shop who also had some troubles with the firt drilled specimens, I got the tip to drill it with a stronger pin position than one normally would. The ball needs some earlier roll to work - drill it for length, and it easily slips through its breakpoint.
Touchy ball. Can be "resurrected", but I would not consider it a "must have" ball, due to its nature by design. No wonder it quickly disappeared again.
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Post by: Jepp114 on June 25, 2008, 12:23:37 PM
Post by: Redline on June 25, 2008, 12:35:02 PM
I've talked it over with a few other people at my house who have used the ball. Most don't like it, and the only one that still uses it only does so because he doesn't want to buy new equipment.
I guess I will if that method yields what I want in terms of ball motion.
Post by: Mike Austin on June 25, 2008, 01:04:45 PM
Put grips in it for me, and re-slugged the thumb to fit me, actually think it was a Switch Grip. Three days later, I shot 779 with that ball in the scratch league bowled on a Sport Shot. Not a PBA shot, flat Sport shot. Ended up being the high series for the season in that league by almost 50 pins. Nobody averaged over 200, I was 198. It was too long to use many other times in this league, but it was awesome that night. It remained the first ball out of my back everywhere for about the next 6-8 months. The Radical is money. Think I'm going to start scouring Ebay to get 1-2 more!!
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Post by: LuckyLefty on June 25, 2008, 03:40:56 PM
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Post by: Jesse James on June 25, 2008, 03:54:17 PM
Personally, I hated the ball. Lots of over/under and seemingly condition specific. Maybe I shoulda hung in there and done more surface changes, but oob, I hated it.
Good luck with yours.
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