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Title: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: Dyno-Joe on September 03, 2007, 10:24:54 PM
Seeing that Brunswick is remaking a bunch of their most successful balls from their past, should I invest in them. I had a chance to throw my friend's Purple Rhino Pro, and the reaction was great. Was thinking about getting that ball and the Black Danger Zone. Are these two a good combo? Just looking for more predictable ball rolls. Hoping to get the best group of balls for my tournament arsenal.
Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: dizzyfugu on September 04, 2007, 06:30:40 AM
If a ball fits, why not buy it again? I'd love to get hands on a NIB Eliminator or Trauma.

The only thing to mind is this... since the introduction of these balls the oil has changed. More viscous types are common now, and the balls, if they are a 100% remake, should appear to be weaker than during their time. I am not sure if this has been compensated during production now. As a hint, you will find many "yesterday" balls' covers on balls for lighter conditions today.
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Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: Dyno-Joe on September 04, 2007, 06:33:52 AM
Thanks dizzy. I think I will buy some of these re-makes. But I haven't had those balls before, they are almost as old as me lol. The Purple Rhino Pro gave a roll to the pocket, where everything else was snappy.
Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: Dyno-Joe on September 04, 2007, 06:16:44 PM
Buddies has some Danger Zones and Purple Rhino Pros. Bowling.com has some Quantums.
Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: MegaMav on September 05, 2007, 10:33:04 AM
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have the company your ordering from re-weigh the ball prior to shipment!


This is a known issue with EVERY ball company, a few get through.
Big deal, you should always weigh and measure before drilling.

There was extra top weight, what were you trying to do?
"kick it out 45 degrees"?
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Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: MegaMav on September 05, 2007, 11:40:22 AM
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Hey Mega, don't be a Jerk with me about this, I have a 3.5 PAP w/medium ball speed and excessive Top weight makes a Reactive skate just as long as a Plastic for me so when I ask for a 2-3 Top, I better Damn Well get what I ordered! 3.5 top, yes I can drill the finger's down a ways, but 4.5 with a 14.3 ball would give me a heavy 13 pounder and the ball won't touch the lane till 30 feet unless I use a crap-load of reverse in the Thumb!


You're way off base here.
PAP horizontal measurement does not account for anything with static weight.

Its legal if the gross top weight is under 3 ounces, 4.5 top minus drilling should be about 2 to 2.5 ounces gross, end of story.

You're fine, no need for name calling.
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Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: MegaMav on September 05, 2007, 12:05:17 PM
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I believe Static weights are just as important as surface adjustments!


I really hope you're not serious.
Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: MegaMav on September 05, 2007, 12:15:07 PM
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Come on Megamav can't a guy even believe in what he wants to believe. You can't criticize someone for what they belive in.


This isnt religion, its physics, and properties of friction opposed to non-dynamic mass.

Do you believe in the tooth fairy?
If you do, it doesnt mean it exists.

Sometimes there is a right and wrong.
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Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: MegaMav on September 05, 2007, 12:26:39 PM
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Everyone is entitled to what they belive in as long as no one gets hurt or it is not illegal. That is one of basic freedoms in life.
 


Yes, in the United States there are those basic freedoms.
Last time I checked though, this isnt a democracy on BallReviews.com
There is no constitutional binding.
Most of your basic rights are left at the login page.
Its run by a moderator, and material is allowed at his/her discretion.
Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: yoder978 on September 05, 2007, 03:20:29 PM
alright to clear some things up i have heard from mo himself that static weights make up less than 3% of a balls reaction.  i know of regional pros who could basically care less about static weights because it is so minimal that it goes unnoticed.
Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: triggerman on September 05, 2007, 03:30:46 PM
God I hate to even jump in this

Static wieghts are static, meaning they dont move around in the ball.  But once the ball is put into motion (dynamic) the static wieght can play an influeance on the motion.  1 oz is not alot in a 15# ball, but the location of that 1 oz, even a static 1 oz, can have an effect.  the further from the center of the ball the more dramatic.  remember the ball in motion is dynamic and that extra weight is also now rotating around the mass, depending on core shape and any bias it may have you can and will see effects of statics, that is physics
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Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: RSalas on September 05, 2007, 03:40:51 PM
Well, in my experience, the static weights in the remakes are just as good as the static weights in the originals.  
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Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: 302efi on September 05, 2007, 03:45:36 PM
...and it starts again...
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Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: triggerman on September 05, 2007, 04:08:50 PM
my opinion?  yes, as the ball slows the core and its imbalance, no matter what is the reasoning behind it (IE weight hole or static weights) the effects of said imbalance becomes more noticeable
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Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: REVerse on September 05, 2007, 04:43:51 PM
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Hey Dynojoe, 1 word of caution, before you Buy 1 of these remakes, remember, they are being made in Mexico!
What the heck does that have to do with anything? I suppose that if someone speaks Spanish they are ignorant and have no clue how a bowling ball is used ? Geez, I called bowlingball.com last year and an American didn't know how to spell Hammer. Stay away from Brunswick if you want. Your choice.
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Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: BrunsNick on September 05, 2007, 06:40:16 PM
I've had Brunswick balls come with different specs a couple of times. It happens when pro shops have balls on display and put them in the wrong boxes when sending them back for whatever reason. I say this because the 3-letter code on the front of the box didn't match the ball.
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Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: BrunsNick on September 05, 2007, 06:55:07 PM
Ball could have been put in the wrong box along the way, either from the factory, distributor or other means. (like I said in my last post)
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Edited on 9/5/2007 6:55 PM
Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: MegaMav on September 05, 2007, 07:21:42 PM
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Nick, my ball weighed 14.3 on the nose, the Pin was 2 3/4 from C.G. well within the 2-3 Pin range, the Top weight in the ball was 4.5, a Full ounce heavier than what was printed on the box and the Box & Ball were stamped Made in Mexico.


The top weight is fine, sheesh!
How many times do we need to say it?
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Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: REVerse on September 05, 2007, 07:42:00 PM
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Hey Dynojoe, 1 word of caution, before you Buy 1 of these remakes, remember, they are being made in Mexico!
What the heck does that have to do with anything? I suppose that if someone speaks Spanish they are ignorant and have no clue how a bowling ball is used ? Geez, I called bowlingball.com last year and an American didn't know how to spell Hammer. Stay away from Brunswick if you want. Your choice.
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Think he explained it pretty good maybe you should read his complete statement before getting your panties all bunched up. Man it's funny how fast some of you guys from the Big B forum jump on people for stating what they think.
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Wow...Truth I didn't jump on anyone. No caps or exclamation points. Just some questions and a statement. Are you Drrev2000's spokesperson? It is no secret that you dislike Brunswick. Although, you seem to enjoy hanging out in the Brunswick forum. Be careful. These Mexican made balls will surprise you. You are missing out and too stubborn to give in. LOL- Your loss.
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Title: Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
Post by: REVerse on September 05, 2007, 10:26:02 PM
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Sorry Rev I had taken it the wrong way then. Sorry though on the Mexican made balls, there are way to many good ones being made in the U.S.A. Maybe you should try some you don't know what you are missing.
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On edit you know me I just gotta hang out on the Big B forum and be one of nicky's followers.
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