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Dyno-Joe

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Should I buy some re-makes?
« on: September 03, 2007, 10:24:54 PM »
Seeing that Brunswick is remaking a bunch of their most successful balls from their past, should I invest in them. I had a chance to throw my friend's Purple Rhino Pro, and the reaction was great. Was thinking about getting that ball and the Black Danger Zone. Are these two a good combo? Just looking for more predictable ball rolls. Hoping to get the best group of balls for my tournament arsenal.
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dizzyfugu

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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2007, 06:30:40 AM »
If a ball fits, why not buy it again? I'd love to get hands on a NIB Eliminator or Trauma.

The only thing to mind is this... since the introduction of these balls the oil has changed. More viscous types are common now, and the balls, if they are a 100% remake, should appear to be weaker than during their time. I am not sure if this has been compensated during production now. As a hint, you will find many "yesterday" balls' covers on balls for lighter conditions today.
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Dyno-Joe

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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2007, 06:33:52 AM »
Thanks dizzy. I think I will buy some of these re-makes. But I haven't had those balls before, they are almost as old as me lol. The Purple Rhino Pro gave a roll to the pocket, where everything else was snappy.
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Dyno-Joe

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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2007, 06:16:44 PM »
Buddies has some Danger Zones and Purple Rhino Pros. Bowling.com has some Quantums.
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MegaMav

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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2007, 10:33:04 AM »
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have the company your ordering from re-weigh the ball prior to shipment!


This is a known issue with EVERY ball company, a few get through.
Big deal, you should always weigh and measure before drilling.

There was extra top weight, what were you trying to do?
"kick it out 45 degrees"?
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MegaMav

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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2007, 11:40:22 AM »
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Hey Mega, don't be a Jerk with me about this, I have a 3.5 PAP w/medium ball speed and excessive Top weight makes a Reactive skate just as long as a Plastic for me so when I ask for a 2-3 Top, I better Damn Well get what I ordered! 3.5 top, yes I can drill the finger's down a ways, but 4.5 with a 14.3 ball would give me a heavy 13 pounder and the ball won't touch the lane till 30 feet unless I use a crap-load of reverse in the Thumb!


You're way off base here.
PAP horizontal measurement does not account for anything with static weight.

Its legal if the gross top weight is under 3 ounces, 4.5 top minus drilling should be about 2 to 2.5 ounces gross, end of story.

You're fine, no need for name calling.
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MegaMav

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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2007, 12:05:17 PM »
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I believe Static weights are just as important as surface adjustments!


I really hope you're not serious.
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MegaMav

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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2007, 12:15:07 PM »
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Come on Megamav can't a guy even believe in what he wants to believe. You can't criticize someone for what they belive in.


This isnt religion, its physics, and properties of friction opposed to non-dynamic mass.

Do you believe in the tooth fairy?
If you do, it doesnt mean it exists.

Sometimes there is a right and wrong.
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MegaMav

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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2007, 12:26:39 PM »
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Everyone is entitled to what they belive in as long as no one gets hurt or it is not illegal. That is one of basic freedoms in life.
 


Yes, in the United States there are those basic freedoms.
Last time I checked though, this isnt a democracy on BallReviews.com
There is no constitutional binding.
Most of your basic rights are left at the login page.
Its run by a moderator, and material is allowed at his/her discretion.
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yoder978

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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2007, 03:20:29 PM »
alright to clear some things up i have heard from mo himself that static weights make up less than 3% of a balls reaction.  i know of regional pros who could basically care less about static weights because it is so minimal that it goes unnoticed.
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triggerman

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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2007, 03:30:46 PM »
God I hate to even jump in this

Static wieghts are static, meaning they dont move around in the ball.  But once the ball is put into motion (dynamic) the static wieght can play an influeance on the motion.  1 oz is not alot in a 15# ball, but the location of that 1 oz, even a static 1 oz, can have an effect.  the further from the center of the ball the more dramatic.  remember the ball in motion is dynamic and that extra weight is also now rotating around the mass, depending on core shape and any bias it may have you can and will see effects of statics, that is physics
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RSalas

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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2007, 03:40:51 PM »
Well, in my experience, the static weights in the remakes are just as good as the static weights in the originals.  
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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2007, 03:45:36 PM »
...and it starts again...
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triggerman

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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2007, 04:08:50 PM »
my opinion?  yes, as the ball slows the core and its imbalance, no matter what is the reasoning behind it (IE weight hole or static weights) the effects of said imbalance becomes more noticeable
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Re: Should I buy some re-makes?
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2007, 04:43:51 PM »
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Hey Dynojoe, 1 word of caution, before you Buy 1 of these remakes, remember, they are being made in Mexico!
What the heck does that have to do with anything? I suppose that if someone speaks Spanish they are ignorant and have no clue how a bowling ball is used ? Geez, I called bowlingball.com last year and an American didn't know how to spell Hammer. Stay away from Brunswick if you want. Your choice.
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