Author Topic: Sidewinder - Crumbling filler? (Read 4296 times)

Strider · « **on:** September 09, 2009, 12:39:01 PM »

I''ll do a manual search a little later since very little popped up from the past 30 days. What''s the base cover on this ball? I know most are solid/pearl hybrid with a low particle load while a few are straight reactive. I picked one up super cheap (always wanted a SW or an Ambush) from Ebay and couldn''t find any information about it on Brunswick''s site. The rest of the BVP balls are there, but not the Sidewinder. Is the base Powerkoil 18 or one of the Activator''s or something else? I never drilled up anything true Rico and thought it might work good on a ball like this.

Edited subject to get more looks. Can a small chip in the filler be fixed? A small amount of dust is just an annoyance at this point, but I''d assume that it will only get worse over time.

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Edited on 9/30/2009 6:02 AM

JMORRIS · « **Reply #1 on:** September 09, 2009, 09:28:54 PM »

I believe it is PK18 base. I'm not 100% sure though.
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« **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2009, 11:13:42 AM »

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It is PK18 particle.
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In addition to the very light particle load, it's a solid, pearl hybrid. Very underestimated piece.

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dougb · « **Reply #3 on:** September 10, 2009, 11:58:15 AM »

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Very underestimated piece.

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mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 10, 2009, 12:23:54 PM »

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Weren't there some that got out with the wrong coverstock? No particle load?
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bigearv14 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 10, 2009, 04:52:25 PM »

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I think it may be a good ball with a pin down in a weaker position.

Correct!!! I pinned mine down and gave it a 1/2 oz thumb weight...smooth and very predictable...

Warmon · « **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2009, 07:37:39 PM »

Here's the link you're looking for: http://www.brunswickbowling.com/bvp-sidewinder?noCache=66:1252601799

Be sure to read the user ball reviews here and at bowlingball.com. I have one that will get drilled shortly. As a lower RG / early roller, the Sidewinder is not really a good candidate for RICO - you need a Med RG ball for that drilling to be most effective. RICO has the core in a early roll orientation with the pin in a low flare / high RG position - which allows the ball to get into an early roll without losing all its energy too soon. The weight hole in the MB location increases the dynamics. A good ball for RICO is the Swarm. The Sidewinder is going to burn too much energy too fast. Label leverage is a good drill for the Sidewinder. If you want pin under, try MedRG Arc - pic below:

[url}http://ebonite.com/images/uploads/drill_instructions/symmetric_core/step_06.gif[/url}
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TheFreeAgent · « **Reply #7 on:** September 10, 2009, 09:59:29 PM »

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Here's the link you're looking for: http://www.brunswickbowling.com/bvp-sidewinder?noCache=66:1252601799

Be sure to read the user ball reviews here and at bowlingball.com. I have one that will get drilled shortly. As a lower RG / early roller, the Sidewinder is not really a good candidate for RICO - you need a Med RG ball for that drilling to be most effective. RICO has the core in a early roll orientation with the pin in a low flare / high RG position - which allows the ball to get into an early roll without losing all its energy too soon. The weight hole in the MB location increases the dynamics. A good ball for RICO is the Swarm. The Sidewinder is going to burn too much energy too fast. Label leverage is a good drill for the Sidewinder. If you want pin under, try MedRG Arc - pic below:

[url}http://ebonite.com/images/uploads/drill_instructions/symmetric_core/step_06.gif[/url}

you really have no clue what you are talking about dude. i drilled mine rico and it is the best rick ball i have ever thrown

Warmon · « **Reply #8 on:** September 10, 2009, 11:19:54 PM »

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you really have no clue what you are talking about dude....

You know what the best part of being ignorant is? It's having absolutely no idea that you are...

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« **Reply #9 on:** September 11, 2009, 02:42:54 AM »

Every ball (and layout) will shine on the right condition. What may seem like a terrible layout to one guy may end up being great for another.

We all have different styles, ball speeds, revs, axis tilt, etc., not to mention that we bowl on various lane surfaces, oil types and volumes...

There are too many variables to dismiss any idea until it's tried.

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Strider · « **Reply #10 on:** September 26, 2009, 09:26:48 AM »

Got my Sidewinder about two weeks ago. Finally got a chance to meet the new pro shop operator. Turns out he bowls in the other league where I bowl Thursday. I also received my replacement Creature. Since I already had plans for that (slight modification of how the original was drilled), I decided to experiment and drill the Sidewinder Rico.

I was very happy with the driller. I'm pretty picky about me fit (milled ovals everywhere + a lot of forward pitch in the thumb) and he pretty much nailed it off the press. It was already late so I didn't have much time to throw it - just wanted to make sure it came off my hand clean. The house where the pro shop is located has old wood lanes with a ton of friction. If I were bowling league there, I would use plastic and a weak 3 piece resin ball only. The Sidewinder looked to have a lot of mid lane, then kind of die on the back, but I'm sure it was pretty much burned up by then. Hopefully I'll get a chance to throw it some Sunday. If not, I'll throw it some after my leagues to get a feel for how it rolls.
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Strider · « **Reply #11 on:** September 29, 2009, 10:18:32 PM »

Question: The filler at the bottom of the thumb slug has a small chip missing and small amounts of dust keep coming out. Can a small amount of plug be used to fill in and protect this area, is there another easy fix, or does the ball have a problem? I threw it for two games tonight. I kept thinking the dust was from the thumb hole not being vacuumed properly. It wasn't until the end of the night until I noticed the missing chip.
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Strider · « **Reply #12 on:** September 30, 2009, 06:03:16 AM »

Bump - modified subject line to reflect new problem.
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #13 on:** September 30, 2009, 06:16:26 AM »

Could be a bubble in the filler that got drilled up? I had this with a Trauma (size of a bean, but at the thumb hole sides) - grinded filler from drilling poured out of it until empty. Did not do harm to the ball, but was just in a bad place for holding the ball, so I had a thumb slug added.
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« **Reply #14 on:** September 30, 2009, 08:26:20 AM »

Just pour a little ball plug into whatever hole to seal it. This happens from time to time from just about any ball. Once sealed, I've never seen it become a problem.

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