Author Topic: Siege - Anyone have trouble getting this to hook? (Read 4367 times)

kmanestor22 · « **on:** October 02, 2009, 03:39:21 AM »

I drilled up a Siege - pin over my middle finger, weight hole 4" not on my PAP, mass bias near my VAL. I had an Awesome Revs drilled identical to this and had much success at various cover preps.

Out of box this ball did almost nothing, although it flared a ton. I figured there was not enough oil and the ball was burning up. I took it up to 4000. It rolls okay, very even and I have to stand further right compared to my Sauce. Near the end of the first game, I end up coming up light and leaving two pins. Again, I assume the lanes are breaking down and that I have too much cover for the conditions.

Here''s where it gets weird. Third game, lanes are fried and I am standing in front of the ball return swinging right with my Virtual Energy, but not carrying. For the hell of it, I try to play the roll out with the Siege. Suddenly, the ball rolls as I expected it to if there was heavy oil.

My Siege is a dry lane ball? Did I get a dud? I am going to apply rough buff tonight to see what affect that may have. Anyone else have a similar experience or have a clue to what is going on?

edit: I miss-typed. Pin is above middle finger. 5-3/4" from PAP just like my Awesome Revs.

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Edited on 10/2/2009 1:24 PM

Burak Natal · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:09:00 AM »

kmanestor22,

My experience is not as dramatic as yours, but I felt that stock cover prep is much smoother then it is advertised. Much like P4000 instead. In other words, cover was smooth, not strong and not burning up, just doesn''t grab..

Try fresh 1000 Abralon or green scotchbrite. Worked great for me.

Hope this helps,
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Regards,
Natal

Edited on 10/3/2009 11:33 AM

Burak Natal · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:32:45 AM »

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Try to knock it down to 1000 and hit it with polish. With my siege polished it still hooks more and handles more oil then my rogue cell drilled identical and in oob surface. The cover on the Siege is very strong, too strong in most cases!

That is quite interesting. My Blast Zone with green scotchbrite was drawing circles around my box Siege on oil. As soon as I hit it with green pad, my Siege came to live and acted like it is advertised.
(Blast:45 X 5-1/2' X 30, x-hole in PAP and Siege: 45 X 5' X 30, 3X1 hole down VAL)

It was strange since roughening the surface is not something usual for me due to my slow speed, high rev&rotation style..
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Regards,
Natal

kmanestor22 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2009, 01:26:09 PM »

JustRico, again this is not a weak drilling FOR ME. I have used this drilling in the past with similar core and supposedly similar cover with great success. I took the ball down with scotch brite and applied Rough Buff. No help. This ball is not burning up and is NOT drilled too weak. The cover is just ridiculously weak. It's like you put a high performance core in a sub-entry level (like the Power Groove Dry/R) cover. Not a bad gimmick and I can make it work, but this ball is not as advertised and cannot be used as intended. Maybe it's a defective cover. I don't know. Buyer beware definitely applies here.

Thanks to the guys that actually read through my post and responded by verifying the I am not the only one who has experienced this. To the guys that could not comprehend the point of this thread, I know that I was clearly a better ball driller than you will ever be. I'm locking this thread as it has devolved into a dink measuring contest rather than a beneficial discussion.
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