Post by: Juggernaut on April 03, 2010, 09:18:21 AM
Going to be getting a lime/lavender soon and wanted a peek at performance, if possible.
--------------------
Good transactions list in my profile
ILLEGITIMI, NON-CARBORUNDUM!
Post by: mj79 on April 03, 2010, 05:50:13 PM
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice
16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev
Work in progress
Post by: Juggernaut on April 03, 2010, 06:19:40 PM
quote:
I have the Black/Silver but i just punched it today so i only got 2 games on it on the leftovers from last night. Haven't rolled enough to give any info yet.
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8233/photo0022vi.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7083/photo0023ma.jpg
--------------------
Thanks ROD22875. man, that logo looks BIG. Anybody else?
--------------------
Good transactions list in my profile
ILLEGITIMI, NON-CARBORUNDUM!
Post by: mj79 on April 03, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice
16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev
Work in progress
Post by: Juggernaut on April 03, 2010, 07:12:12 PM
quote:
what made you pick a slingshot over a rattler or an avalanche?
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice
16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev
Work in progress
The rattler is more ball than I'm looking for. I have PLENTY of stuff to cover that condition/shot with.
The Avalanches. Well, I had the blue/silver one, and it was stronger than advertised, and I just don't like the look of the slide, so I went with the lower diff and mild cover on the slingshot.
Now, if they DO come out with a pearl urethane Avalanche ( I heard a rumor), I may check into that one as well.
--------------------
Good transactions list in my profile
ILLEGITIMI, NON-CARBORUNDUM!
Post by: J_Mac on April 03, 2010, 10:24:01 PM
IMHO... Not at all comparable to the Freeze. Much smoother due to the lower differential and weaker coverstock.
My Freeze -
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x16/madcelt2000/IMG_0716.jpg
Touch less than my MOjave as well - http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x16/madcelt2000/IMG_0673.jpg
--------------------
Bowlingballreviews.com... Gone, but not forgotten. Wayback Machine - http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
Post by: on April 03, 2010, 11:00:05 PM
I think this is different than the Freeze, which is a bit stronger from what I've seen, but this one is unique.
I've used it twice at different houses now, and both times I was able to stay in the area that everyone else has vacated. Most "dry lane balls" get easy length and either keep skating or snap unpredictably late.
I keep waiting for it to go through the nose, but it holds the line and keeps the pins low. So far carry has been very good.
I would recommend strong layouts (and pin down) for most bowlers. The black/silver and red/silver are real eye catchers so far.
--------------------
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
www.brunswickbowling.com
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Post by: the pooh on April 04, 2010, 03:24:13 AM
--------------------
the pooh
Edited on 4/4/2010 3:25 AM
Post by: Juggernaut on April 04, 2010, 08:29:39 AM
Been using an AMF Orbit Extreme pearl (http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll5/juggernaut_too/Bowling%20balls/OrbitExtreme.jpg) to do this, but its got a lot of games on it, so I'm going to try to replace it with this one.
--------------------
Good transactions list in my profile
ILLEGITIMI, NON-CARBORUNDUM!
Post by: BrunsBob on April 04, 2010, 10:03:09 AM
RoB LaW
--------------------
I'm gettin' old, I'm hurtin', but I've got Brunswick balls.......Color me competitive.
Post by: Juggernaut on April 04, 2010, 10:26:13 AM
quote:
And that's what we want it for. It wasn't intended to be on the same performance level as a Freeze, but rather to be a good looking, value priced, entry level ball that can also fit into the arsenal of any bowler looking to complete their line up.
RoB LaW
--------------------
I'm gettin' old, I'm hurtin', but I've got Brunswick balls.......Color me competitive.
Exactly what I'm doing. I've been using only one companies stuff for a while now, but starting to get curious about what else might be out there. Needing a replacement for the O.E., I decided to go for one of these. I always liked the look pk17 gave me when I was throwing mostly B stuff, so this was the perfect opportunity to try one again.
--------------------
Good transactions list in my profile
ILLEGITIMI, NON-CARBORUNDUM!
Post by: nocarey on April 04, 2010, 06:27:15 PM
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/brunswick/slingshots42010.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/brunswick/slingshots42010a.jpg
Post by: OddBalls on April 05, 2010, 11:14:00 AM
I'm going to go with a pin down 4x4 layout.
I've the avalanche series and hoping the pk17 cover is going to be as hard off the dry as they are..
--------------------
Yes. it's I, the Inverted One..
Post by: jkiser01 on April 05, 2010, 12:02:23 PM
quote:
I drilled two, yet to roll'em
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/brunswick/slingshots42010.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/brunswick/slingshots42010a.jpg
--------------------
My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..
Roto Grip.. King of Them All!!
Storm ain't so bad either!! LOL
I also like AMF/900 Global..
Post by: Lillen on April 05, 2010, 12:15:03 PM
quote:
Your links do not work..quote:
I drilled two, yet to roll''''em
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/brunswick/slingshots42010.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/brunswick/slingshots42010a.jpg
--------------------
My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..
Roto Grip.. King of Them All!!
Storm ain''''t so bad either!! LOL
I also like AMF/900 Global..
Links works for me...
--------------------
-------------------
www.psbowling.se/
www.dteracing.se
http://www.festis.se/orange.html
Edited on 4/5/2010 12:15 PM
Edited on 4/5/2010 12:16 PM
Post by: Juggernaut on April 05, 2010, 01:36:13 PM
--------------------
Good transactions list in my profile
ILLEGITIMI, NON-CARBORUNDUM!
Post by: jkiser01 on April 05, 2010, 02:18:44 PM
--------------------
My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..
Roto Grip.. King of Them All!!
Storm ain't so bad either!! LOL
I also like AMF/900 Global..
Post by: mj79 on April 05, 2010, 02:32:17 PM
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice
16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev
Work in progress
Post by: on April 05, 2010, 09:52:10 PM
They seem to be going between $119 and $129 drilled on average.
Much more length than any of the mentioned choices with a tame backend move. This is truly a great dry lane ball. For more oil there are better (more forgiving) choices.
--------------------
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
www.brunswickbowling.com
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Post by: nocarey on April 07, 2010, 12:31:46 AM
quote:
I drilled two, yet to roll'em
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/brunswick/slingshots42010.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/brunswick/slingshots42010a.jpg
well I rolled them this evening on some spotty synthetics, pretty tame reaction, easy to play off the corner. I'd suggest if you drill them similar to mine to roll the ball slow, go with 1000 or 2000 surface, maybe a stronger drilling. They hit fairly well. Need to roll them at a better center to give the final verdict but at this time I prefer the Avalanches I had, solid, pearl and slide over these Slingshots.
Post by: J_w73 on April 07, 2010, 12:48:17 AM
quote:quote:
I drilled two, yet to roll'em
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/brunswick/slingshots42010.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/brunswick/slingshots42010a.jpg
well I rolled them this evening on some spotty synthetics, pretty tame reaction, easy to play off the corner. I'd suggest if you drill them similar to mine to roll the ball slow, go with 1000 or 2000 surface, maybe a stronger drilling. They hit fairly well. Need to roll them at a better center to give the final verdict but at this time I prefer the Avalanches I had, solid, pearl and slide over these Slingshots.
I would imagine the two balls roll pretty much the same. Do they?
Why did you put such a similar drill on both of them???
--------------------
18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
Post by: stormed1 on April 07, 2010, 02:48:45 AM
--------------------
Arsenal: Mega Friction,Mega Recovery,Break Point,Break,Sideways,Clutch,Clutch Pearl,Maniac,Awakening,Lunatic,Heist Pearl,SX-1,Link,Hype urethane,Desperado,Global Globe, 14# golden globe
http://s485.photobucket.com/albums/rr220/stormed1/My%20Arsenal/
Bowlingboards.com
Post by: nocarey on April 07, 2010, 06:23:06 AM
quote:quote:quote:
I drilled two, yet to roll'em
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/brunswick/slingshots42010.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/nocarey/brunswick/slingshots42010a.jpg
well I rolled them this evening on some spotty synthetics, pretty tame reaction, easy to play off the corner. I'd suggest if you drill them similar to mine to roll the ball slow, go with 1000 or 2000 surface, maybe a stronger drilling. They hit fairly well. Need to roll them at a better center to give the final verdict but at this time I prefer the Avalanches I had, solid, pearl and slide over these Slingshots.
I would imagine the two balls roll pretty much the same. Do they?
Why did you put such a similar drill on both of them???
--------------------
18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
I'm going to go with two different surfaces eventually, one will be 4000 and the other will be 1000.
Post by: tizzle on April 07, 2010, 06:26:54 AM
quote:
They seem to be going between $119 and $129 drilled on average.
Much more length than any of the mentioned choices with a tame backend move. This is truly a great dry lane ball. For more oil there are better (more forgiving) choices.
--------------------
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
www.brunswickbowling.com
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
--------------------
Owner of Brazen Bowling Supply... authorized seller of Lane1,Big B,Morich,Storm,Roto,Seismic,Visionary,Ebonite,Hammer,Columbia, and Track... I can get anything.. give me the chance to earn your business!
Post by: BeansProShop on April 08, 2010, 12:18:05 PM
--------------------
www.beansproshop.com
--------------------
Thomas "Beans" Biniek Jr.
PBA Member and Pro Shop Owner/Operator
Check out current eBay auctions at:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=bowling_with_leah Official Pro Shop of "ALL" F.O.S. Members!!!
Post by: stormed1 on April 08, 2010, 12:34:23 PM
here's the pics of the violet/lime
http://s485.photobucket.com/albums/rr220/stormed1/My%20Arsenal/Balls%20for%20sale/?action=view¤t=IMG_0811.jpg
http://s485.photobucket.com/albums/rr220/stormed1/My%20Arsenal/Balls%20for%20sale/?action=view¤t=IMG_0812.jpg
http://s485.photobucket.com/albums/rr220/stormed1/My%20Arsenal/Balls%20for%20sale/?action=view¤t=IMG_0813.jpg
http://s485.photobucket.com/albums/rr220/stormed1/My%20Arsenal/Balls%20for%20sale/?action=view¤t=IMG_0814.jpg
--------------------
Arsenal: Mega Friction,Mega Recovery,Break Point,Break,Sideways,Clutch,Clutch Pearl,Maniac,Awakening,Lunatic,Heist Pearl,SX-1,Link,Hype urethane,Desperado,Global Globe, 14# golden globe
http://s485.photobucket.com/albums/rr220/stormed1/My%20Arsenal/
Bowlingboards.com
Post by: slap on April 09, 2010, 08:34:30 AM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/slap1914/bowling/IMG00019-20100408-2320.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/slap1914/bowling/IMG00020-20100408-2320.jpg
--------------------
"Student of the Game"
http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/slap1914/bowling/
Post by: Senior on April 09, 2010, 06:36:31 PM
Post by: J_Mac on April 09, 2010, 07:22:31 PM
quote:
How does the Slingshot compare to the Power Groove? Longer? Better back end?
By the numbers a Slingshot is a touch longer than a PG but smoother than the PG.
--------------------
Bowlingballreviews.com... Gone, but not forgotten. Wayback Machine - http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
Post by: 12-Strikes on April 09, 2010, 07:24:19 PM
Edited on 4/9/2010 8:05 PM
Post by: mj79 on April 11, 2010, 01:40:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=802AU6ZhCoY
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice
16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev
Work in progress
Post by: J_Mac on April 11, 2010, 02:34:21 AM
quote:
Slingshot vid/review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=802AU6ZhCoY
I'd really like to know what reference bowlingball.com used when they decided to claim the Slingshot has 5-6" of flare potential and is meant to cover medium to heavy oil conditions like they claim in the video...
--------------------
Bowlingballreviews.com... Gone, but not forgotten. Wayback Machine - http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
Post by: mj79 on April 11, 2010, 02:49:26 AM
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice
16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev
Work in progress
Post by: J_Mac on April 11, 2010, 03:03:02 AM
quote:
I was wondering the exact same thing.. Maybe by the way the guys throw the ball?? Cuz it did look pretty snappy in the back end.. But im pretty sure this isnt as aggressive of a ball as a rattler which is listed as a medium oil ball as well
Another issue - their site has the "Perfect Scale"
There have been discussions here on the failings of this rating system, but they have the black/silver Slingshot with a perfect scale rating of 175.6 and the Rattler with a rating of 185.
A more appropriate rating of 74.9 can be found on the Power Grooves.
I'm not accusing them of deliberately misleading their customers, but apparently they are too busy taking everyone's money to double check their website for what I feel are more than just run of the mill typos.
--------------------
Bowlingballreviews.com... Gone, but not forgotten. Wayback Machine - http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
Post by: kidlost2000 on April 11, 2010, 06:28:55 AM
--------------------
" men lie, women lie, numbers don't "
Post by: BrunsBob on April 11, 2010, 10:23:31 AM
Just in case you wanna see them on our site.
RoB LaW
--------------------
I'm gettin' old, I'm hurtin', but I've got Brunswick balls.......Color me competitive.
Post by: on April 11, 2010, 10:27:27 AM
I'm starting to call this one the Ultimate Dry(er) Lane choice. The ball's smooth move late is a breath of fresh air compared to the 3 piece core balls that can be hard to predict at times.
--------------------
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
www.brunswickbowling.com
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Post by: Juggernaut on April 11, 2010, 11:20:55 AM
quote:
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/all/
Just in case you wanna see them on our site.
RoB LaW
--------------------
I'm gettin' old, I'm hurtin', but I've got Brunswick balls.......Color me competitive.
Rob,
That pic shows them to ALL have white logos, yet I was sent a pic of a lime/lavender with bright pink logos.
Since I have a lime/lavender coming, what should I expect?
--------------------
Good transactions list in my profile
ILLEGITIMI, NON-CARBORUNDUM!
Post by: pro shop guy on April 11, 2010, 11:46:32 AM
Post by: Juggernaut on April 11, 2010, 12:06:54 PM
quote:
pink letters on the limes
Leave it to me to pick the funky one.
--------------------
Good transactions list in my profile
ILLEGITIMI, NON-CARBORUNDUM!
Post by: mj79 on April 11, 2010, 12:22:15 PM
quote:
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/all/
Just in case you wanna see them on our site.
RoB LaW
--------------------
I'm gettin' old, I'm hurtin', but I've got Brunswick balls.......Color me competitive.
battering siege...???
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice
16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev
Work in progress
Post by: charlest on April 11, 2010, 12:28:50 PM
quote:quote:
How does the Slingshot compare to the Power Groove? Longer? Better back end?
By the numbers a Slingshot is a touch longer than a PG but smoother than the PG.
--------------------
Bowlingballreviews.com... Gone, but not forgotten. Wayback Machine - http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
I think you got that reversed.
Same coverstock, PG has higher RG than Slingshot, so more length and higher RG differential = more flare = more backend.
Slingshot is earlier and smoother at breakpoint, but still long.
--------------------
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Post by: Juggernaut on April 11, 2010, 12:30:20 PM
quote:quote:
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/all/
Just in case you wanna see them on our site.
RoB LaW
--------------------
I'm gettin' old, I'm hurtin', but I've got Brunswick balls.......Color me competitive.
battering siege...???
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T Zone
Brunswick Danger Zone Black Ice
16.5 mph ball speed
330 Rev
Work in progress
International release
--------------------
Good transactions list in my profile
ILLEGITIMI, NON-CARBORUNDUM!
Post by: J_Mac on April 11, 2010, 01:05:16 PM
quote:quote:quote:
How does the Slingshot compare to the Power Groove? Longer? Better back end?
By the numbers a Slingshot is a touch longer than a PG but smoother than the PG.
--------------------
I think you got that reversed.
Same coverstock, PG has higher RG than Slingshot, so more length and higher RG differential = more flare = more backend.
Slingshot is earlier and smoother at breakpoint, but still long.
--------------------
Jeff, I'm merely going by the length and break point numbers that Brunswick provides.
That being said, wouldn't a ball with less flare potential (more stable) change direction later than one with a larger flare potential?
Keep in mind that once holes are drilled, listed RG and diff. numbers are no longer applicable.
Post by: charlest on April 11, 2010, 03:10:19 PM
quote:quote:quote:quote:
How does the Slingshot compare to the Power Groove? Longer? Better back end?
By the numbers a Slingshot is a touch longer than a PG but smoother than the PG.
--------------------
I think you got that reversed.
Same coverstock, PG has higher RG than Slingshot, so more length and higher RG differential = more flare = more backend.
Slingshot is earlier and smoother at breakpoint, but still long.
--------------------
Jeff, I''m merely going by the length and break point numbers that Brunswick provides.
That being said, wouldn''t a ball with less flare potential (more stable) change direction later than one with a larger flare potential?Quote
Keep in mind that once holes are drilled, listed RG and diff. numbers are no longer applicable.
--------------------
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Dull balls, yes. Polished balls tend to save their flare for the backend.
But in this case there''s a huge difference in RG: 2.58 vs 2.7.
I''d have to go with less length and a controlled backend.
Edited on 4/11/2010 8:19 PM
Post by: Easy10pins on April 11, 2010, 07:32:29 PM
quote:
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/all/
Just in case you wanna see them on our site.
RoB LaW
Why won't Brunswick/Billy O produce videos for the "entry level performance" balls?
--------------------
The bowler formerly known as BrunsRod.
Solid 7 Pin?? 299 Game??!! WTF