Author Topic: Slingshot solid? (Read 5838 times)

batbowler · « **on:** December 31, 2011, 04:03:07 AM »

I'd really like to see Brunswick come out with a Slingshot solid coverstock!!! I use a pin down Slingshot a lot on houseshots and wish the Big B would release a solid coverstock!!! Just my $.02, Bruce

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charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** December 31, 2011, 12:18:46 PM »

Bruce,

Given the evenness of both PK 18 and PK17 pearlized coverstocks, I wonder if you wouldn't achieve a similar result to a Slingshot Solid by just sanding the Pearl down to around P1000 or P1500 grit and applying a medium dose of good non-abrasive polish, like Snake Oil, to it. It would certainly be earlier than the Pearl's current finish.

That said, I wouldn't mind a Slingshot Solid myself.

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batbowler · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2011, 02:55:32 PM »

I'd like to see the pk 18 solid cover on the core of the Slingshot! The Karma's are amazing, but can be a bit to strong when the lanes break down. I'm thinking the stronger cover will help the recovery when you have to move deeper on the lane!! Just a thought!

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xrayjay · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2011, 03:26:50 PM »

Funny, I was joking with a buddy just a few minutes ago that 2012 there will be a solid version coming out... But, like what Charlest mentioned.. I did a similar thing with OOB cover on my SS... Now, it's money on our house shot. Good cleance, slight midlane, and continuation through deck.
At first, I used 2000 siaair by hand across track, but still jumpy. So I used spinner on four sections of the ball with same grit. Light pressure, and with no polish.. Rolls really nice for me..

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charlest · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2011, 03:27:57 PM »

I think they tried that with the Avalanche (light bulb core) series and it sold badly or just not as well as it might have. I doubt they will try it again.

Actually the lack of sales for the Avalanche (PK18) solid and pearl (green/black) may be why we are now seeing the Karma series. Both the solid and the pearl were amazingly even reacting without much drive at all. I still have my Avalanche green/black pearl but rarely use it.

batbowler wrote on 12/31/2011 3:55 PM:I'd like to see the pk 18 solid cover on the core of the Slingshot! The Karma's are amazing, but can be a bit to strong when the lanes break down. I'm thinking the stronger cover will help the recovery when you have to move deeper on the lane!! Just a thought!

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batbowler · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2011, 08:36:56 PM »

The big difference is the Karma replaced the Avalanche series and the Slingshot replaced the Power Groove line. I really liked the particle pearl Power Groove and think a solid version in the Slingshot would fill a void between the SS pk17 and Karma pk18 pearl and solid. If you had a similar drilled Karma solid and SS solid you wouldn't really have to change lines just balls! I don't know it's just a thought!!!

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batbowler · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2011, 09:08:07 PM »

Here's a link to the Power Groove Proactive Plum/particle pearl:

http://www.ballreviews.com/bowlingballreviews/brunswick/power_groove_proactive_(plum)/440/0/1/ballreviews.aspx

Brunswick used a strong coverstock that was only used on their high end balls on the entry level Power Groove line, which the Slingshot replaced!!! Back in the day I had a lot of people ask me what ball I was using and they were shocked to find out it was a Power Groove Plum!

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charlest · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2011, 11:14:01 PM »

I know exactly what it is. I think I still have a 16 lb PG Plum; haven't seen it in a dog's age but it must still be there somewhere int he basement. If you use 16s, you can have it.

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kidlost2000 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 01, 2012, 06:33:19 AM »

The PG Plum was an amazing ball that I loved. I was fortunate enough to get a nib 15lb one off of here about a two months ago.

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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #9 on:** January 02, 2012, 01:47:15 AM »

I do not think that there will be a solid SS, charlest explained it very well. With ist low RG and very small RG differential the ball is super smooth and mild by nature. If it is jumpy for the user, then it is IMHO a release issue with lots of side rotation. I can hardly see and benefit in a solid cover - taking the shine off of the pearl balls should be anything you can do.

There used to be solid PGs, and I remember that they were intended as control pieces. But I'd assume that they did not sell well...

Very sad that the particle PGs are gone, both the Plum Pearl but also the Black Sparkle. Very unique cover/core combos, great for spotty lanes, carrydown or lanes where open bowlers have messed up a THS.

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kidlost2000 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 02, 2012, 05:46:32 AM »

I do have a solid and a pearl PG and I agree that cover adjustments will get either very close to one another and would recommend doing the same with the SS. Surface will get you the reaction you want.

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johns811 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 02, 2012, 06:15:18 AM »

I've got a NIB 16lb Particle PG I would sell if anybody is interested. Oddly 3 of my 4 300's were shot with PG. 2 with solid, 1 with particle.

batbowler · « **Reply #12 on:** January 02, 2012, 09:09:37 AM »

My favorite coverstocks are the particle and particle pearls, which you can't find only in certain ball manufacturers!! I have a pin down SS that I use a lot and our house shot is Kegel Stone Street, which is 42' long. I have a pin up SS that I drilled and haven't used much and it probably doesn't have a game or two on it. I think I'll take Charlest/Jeff's advice and play with the coverstock and try it tomorrow night!! I do remember when the SS came out that BTM stated one of the testers took the Red/Silver SS down to 500 grit and shot 801. I've shot really good with the pin down Merlot/Gold SS at 2000 abralon and think I'll try a lower grit on the pin up SS. I have a higher axis rotation and don't have any trouble getting the ball down the lane, but they can be very over/under with the high axis rotation!!

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Brandon Riley · « **Reply #13 on:** January 03, 2012, 01:02:40 AM »

Would the ball sell? Absolutely.

Would it be good for business? Yes, if it takes sales away from other companies, but a big no if it cannibalizes the sales of other lines where Brunswick can make more money per ball.

Your thoughts?

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batbowler · « **Reply #14 on:** January 03, 2012, 08:55:48 AM »

The next solid coverstock ball in Brunswick line is the Karma solid and it won't be as strong and wouldn't take the place of the Karma. The core numbers don't match up to the Karma, but I think it would fill a void between the Damage line, all pearls, and the Slingshot pearls! You can change the surface on the pearls, but you still have a pearl. Just my thoughts!!!

Train a child up in the way they should go and when they are old they will do some "Damn Good Bowling", be a "DV8" and not turn from it, besides bowling starts with a Big B!

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