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Title: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: kidlost2000 on July 03, 2013, 10:36:34 PM
Keeping some of the rust off and threw a few to compare the two.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEp1okU6hoM
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: Armourboy on July 03, 2013, 11:50:59 PM
Always wondered what the difference was in the two, thanks for the video
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: BackToBasics on July 04, 2013, 12:37:31 PM
So the Strike King appears much stronger.  Why are low end balls getting stronger and stronger??
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: charlest on July 04, 2013, 01:22:57 PM
So the Strike King appears much stronger. 

Please keep in mind that with his drilling and the added P3 weight hole, kidlost has maximized the ball reaction for both balls. There are much milder drilling available for both balls that would make them suitable for less oil with a more controlled backend.

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Why are low end balls getting stronger and stronger??

because most people (Note, I did not say all) are encountering more and more oil, even on house patterns. If you're not one of them, put aside 1 or 2 of the old fashioned kind of dry lane, resin control balls, like the Slingshot, the Silver Recon Pearl, Chainsaw and the Blue/Green Centaur or, pearl urethanes, like the SuperNatural, and the Desperado.
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on July 04, 2013, 01:51:10 PM

I liked the video.  I should be drilling the black Strike King next week.  My Ringer has surprised me with it's overall strength, so this one should be a step below.
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: kidlost2000 on July 04, 2013, 02:19:33 PM
So the Strike King appears much stronger. 

Please keep in mind that with his drilling and the added P3 weight hole, kidlost has maximized the ball reaction for both balls. There are much milder drilling available for both balls that would make them suitable for less oil with a more controlled backend.

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Why are low end balls getting stronger and stronger??

because most people (Note, I did not say all) are encountering more and more oil, even on house patterns. If you're not one of them, put aside 1 or 2 of the old fashioned kind of dry lane, resin control balls, like the Slingshot, the Silver Recon Pearl, Chainsaw and the Blue/Green Centaur or, pearl urethanes, like the SuperNatural, and the Desperado.

+1 Keep in mind both are drilled aggressively. Both are drilled to increase the diffs. and have strong down lane reactions.

 Both can easily be drilled to reduce flare and be much more contollable on drier conditions. Just one example of comparing the two when drilled similar. The Slingshot uses PK17 cover circa 1995. It doesn't get much older then that.
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: BackToBasics on July 04, 2013, 04:11:05 PM
You both missed my point, which is that a replacement low end ball is stronger than the ball it replaces.  So next year the low end will be a Meanstreak or Karma?  I'm simply talking cover. 

Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: kidlost2000 on July 04, 2013, 04:23:08 PM
Yes it is stronger.
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: charlest on July 04, 2013, 06:20:35 PM
You both missed my point, which is that a replacement low end ball is stronger than the ball it replaces.  So next year the low end will be a Meanstreak or Karma?  I'm simply talking cover. 



I didn't miss your point at all. Look at the Freeze and the Cyclone. They're both significantly stronger than the balls they replaced and they've been out for years already. They're stronger in general because there's more oil and people love big hooking balls.

ANd not only are the covers stronger, the cores are stronger also.
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: DP3 on July 05, 2013, 02:50:58 AM
For your slower speed and Rev rate those balls look awesome for you. Good video. I've heard reports from people about the strike kings being sneaky strong on the ths when you're by the friction.
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: Armourboy on July 05, 2013, 02:54:21 AM
So is the order of strength the Meanstreak > Ringer > Strike King > Slingshot if you get one before they are gone, or are the Ringer and Strike King roughly the same with just different shot shapes?
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: baer300 on July 05, 2013, 06:27:04 AM
Armourboy, the Ringer will be stronger than the Strike King. The Ringer will handle more oil than the Strike King. Your steps from Meanstreak to Slingshot is accurate.
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: Brandon Riley on July 05, 2013, 01:32:24 PM
Kid, how many games do you have on your slingshot?
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: kidlost2000 on July 05, 2013, 03:20:15 PM
........6 max including the video. Same for the Strike King.
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: davidinil on July 15, 2013, 07:06:41 PM
Good vid.  Were you bowling on fresh oil?
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: kidlost2000 on July 15, 2013, 07:18:47 PM
Fresh oil. It is summer time and there is less oil. Both balls are drilled aggressive and can handle some oil with surface adjustment.
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: Jesse James on July 30, 2013, 12:50:43 PM
Thanks for the vids. Good comparisons overall. If i were to buy either or both, I'd place a simple label leverage drill on them to get a soft arc to the pocket. From there it would be all about hand adjustments.
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: kidlost2000 on July 30, 2013, 04:08:04 PM
Very versatile ball for the price point. You can easily drill two with different layouts and surfaces and prepared for a variety of conditions. Great ball for the price point.

Just ordered another Slingshot since they are discontinued.(been wanting the red/orange since it came out)
Title: Re: Slingshot vs Strike King video
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 14, 2013, 08:17:13 AM
Kid,

I appreciate you putting these reviews out here.  The confusion factor is mixing in the reaction smoothing Rico drill.

Here is another review that really shows not only the different board coverage of these balls but also the increased angularity of the Strike King.

I was fortunate enough to see the first one on the lanes yesterday and I can confidently say there is dramatically different movements between the Strike King(angular move, flip) and the Slingshot which has a rounded look in almost in all situations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtFX7uTHwFQ  from Video Ball reviews.

The difference is no surprise to me when looks at the core pictures and specs.

Strike King tall core which often implies angular
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/detail/strike-king-blue-red-pearl/

Slingshot rounded core which often implies midlane and rounded slurve
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/detail/slingshot-black-pink/

Also, note the different charts and angularity rankings 65 for the Slingshot and 85 for the the Strike King.  I think these rankings are right on.  Is the Strike King actually more angular than the Ringer?

I believe I have two different houses which will love both different reactions.  One the slurve of the Slingshot the other the flip of the Strike King.

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS Is the Strike King actually more angular than the Ringer?