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CharlieBrown

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Smooth for dry............
« on: March 12, 2008, 02:15:29 AM »
Hi!

I used to have a Polished Power Groove Reactive, and its backend is rather strong.

I'm looking for something for drier-lane / late shift / practice, something not snappy at breakpoint and also able to cut though the dry front.

Is a highly polished sidewinder a good option? I don't think I should get the PG Dry/R, cos I already have a XXXL.

Current arsenal:
Ultimate Inferno
Vapor Zone
XXXL

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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2008, 10:47:41 AM »
I have the Avalanche Pearl and threw it on a 28 foot pattern and it was perfect.  Not snappy at all but hits hard.  Pin is above the bridge and CG below the ring finger.
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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2008, 12:04:01 PM »
Smooth for drier means the Avalanche Solid to me...


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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2008, 12:06:59 PM »
I'm getting a scout reactive today to hopefully help with the dry lanes or where I can play up the 2nd arrow at least.
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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2008, 03:48:39 PM »
I have a couple different Scout Reactives. Great dry lane ball if you throw about 17.5 -18 mph or higher. Otherwise if you have slow speed it becomes a big backend ball, that pings ten-pins!

Maybe if you rico drill a pearlized version, you might have some  success, otherwise, I'd go with a Neptune, or Pluto for dryish lanes. Roto really has that area covered pretty well.
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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2008, 03:50:20 PM »
Ooop! Sorry...forgot this was the Brunswick section! Didn't mean to hijack this thread!
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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2008, 04:06:06 PM »
Interested if anyone agrees that the PG Dry/R is not a good option as it was recommended to me for a similar scnario.  

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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2008, 04:39:19 PM »
It's a question of the different coverstocks and their characteristics. Although the Dry/R is made to be good on drier conditions, it's still a pearlized reactive. Assuming the back ends are clean, a pearl will respond faster to friction and be more angular than a solid reactive cover on the same condition.

Solids tend to be a more smooth reaction once they encounter friction. One is not better than the other, because it's bowler preference. They're just different in how they finish on the lane.

If carry-down becomes an issue, sometimes a pearl will "skate" whereas a solid may get through it easier. There are other variables such as ball speed, bowler's release, the part of the lane the bowler plays, etc.

Generally, a bowler wanting a ball for dry lanes that will give him the smoothest reaction should look at ball with a tame core and a solid cover, thus my recommendation of the Avalanche solid. Hope this helps.



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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2008, 07:55:15 AM »
I have both Avalanches..solid is 4.5", 60 deg and the pearl is 5", 80 deg. The solid is much tamer off the friction than the pearl. When the solid isn't making the corner and I can move out due to the heads being gone, I can just bump in a few and go to the pearl with great results...

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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2008, 08:20:48 AM »
quote:
It's a question of the different coverstocks and their characteristics. Although the Dry/R is made to be good on drier conditions, it's still a pearlized reactive. Assuming the back ends are clean, a pearl will respond faster to friction and be more angular than a solid reactive cover on the same condition.


Yeah, but the Dry/R is IMHO an overall smooth and tame piece - it is not jumpy.
Also, do not forget the Urethane Groove. This is a pretty strong ball, too (more than one expect), but offers the typical urethane "reads-lane-early-but-smooth-and-consistently" reaction. Only drawback is IMHO that it just has a pancake core and just does not roll in the back end.

BTW: Sidewinder is a strong low RG ball. Not recommended. A particle option could be one of the old particle Power Grooves (Plum Pearl or Black Sparkle), any of them at high gloss polish. But both have slightly more traction than the PK17 reactives, so they might also be too much ball for your challenge.
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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2008, 09:56:52 AM »
I would say no to the sidewinder... I have one, and it's stronger than I thought it would be, the only hope you'd have for it is if it could burn up early to weaken the reaction.

I assume you want something to go between your vapo(u)r zone and your XXXL? In which case I'd recommend one of the following:

Jolt Solid/Pearl
Cherry vibe
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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2008, 03:47:27 AM »
I have an avalanche solid (pin 4.5" below ring at 45 deg) and have taken the polish off of it to create a really smooth backend reaction.  I have to agree with notclay because it provides a smooth transition from wet to dry, but from my experience although it does provide length, it will not get nearly as far downlane as your PG, but will be much more even at the break.  It will definitely provide predictability and control.  This ball is best suited for lighter volumes and stronger backends.
Your other option is to take the polish off of your PG - take it down to 4000 abralon.  That should give you enough length but help you control your breakpoint a little more.
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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2008, 11:39:02 AM »
Ur gona need something that isnt reactive resin, get the groove urethane.

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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2008, 02:47:48 PM »
You'd be surprised at what a little surface can do for you when the lanes back end too much.
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Re: Smooth for dry............
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2008, 06:47:49 AM »
So which would be better on old burned up Guardian?...Avalanche Pearl or Solid?