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Equipment Boards => Brunswick => Topic started by: Loudstriker on February 21, 2006, 11:50:53 AM

Title: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: Loudstriker on February 21, 2006, 11:50:53 AM: Right now I am in the persute of a Dry Lane ball. I have been looking at three different choices. The Slate Blue Gargoyle by Visionary, Groove Urathane, or Power Groove Dry/R. I was leaning towards the Gargoyle until my friend recently witnessed one at a tournament that snapped in oil. So I thought about the Groove Urathane but I know Urathane wants to start up early so that got me thinking about the Dry/R. I have High Revs and High Track. My Smokin' can not be used on anything less than true Medium Oil and is a true Medium Heavy Oil ball for me. When you suggest a ball, could you suggest a drilling pattern as well? I was thinking of a few but wasn't sure if they would work.
Thanks.
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Edited on 2/21/2006 8:37 PM
Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: a_ak57 on February 21, 2006, 08:04:56 PM: If the smokin is that strong for you, I'd look at plastic. Don't worry about the hit. If the lanes warrant you using plastic, it will hit just as hard as reactive.
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: Triple X on February 22, 2006, 12:52:58 AM: Go for the power groove dry/r & drilled pin on the bridge & Cg about 5 1/2 from your pap towards the neg. side.(5 x 5 1/2 from pap)This is a good long & control layout for this ball on those light to dry lanes.

Brunswick drilling sheet recommend pin positions of 4 1/2 - 5 3/4 for drier lanes.
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: Cranking_Inferno on February 22, 2006, 02:00:18 PM: Try a Panic from Columbia300

I do use my Smoking for dryer conditions, so either you throw slow or turn the cr@p out of it ... if thats the case then you ned to back off the revs and project the ball further ..
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: Cranking_Inferno on February 22, 2006, 02:01:44 PM: Aslo try a XXXL from Lane#1.. its a true plastic ball, but with a fat core in it.. it really works for dry lanes.
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: Dean Richards on February 22, 2006, 03:10:25 PM: I know this a Big B page but i think columbia makes the best dry lane balls and mid performance. I have drilled probably 20 something balls the last year and haven't left my ebonite ice for anything else. true dry lane ball.
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: shelley on February 22, 2006, 03:32:20 PM: If you're concerned about the hit with the Groove Urethane (since it has a pancake weight block), what about the Pure Hammer? It has a real core and a urethane cover. Cheaper than an XXXL, too.

SH
Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: 102101 on February 22, 2006, 03:56:07 PM: Loudstriker I picked up a Dry/R for myself and at the same time
my wife got the Slate Blue Gargoyle. The Slate Blue Gargoyle is
a very good ball on dry lanes and I wish I would have went with
it instead of the Dry/r. It has the length you need and still
has great hit due to having a real core. Any questions about
either feel free to PM.
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: John D Davis on February 22, 2006, 04:01:04 PM: Hey there... I think the smoking will be the best dry lane ball....I know it might be strong now but if theres any way possible you can put a weight hole in it if it doesnt have one now and add some thumb weight... Then polish it up to no less than 2000 wet sanded and then shined with Finesse It and it will be perfect!! If you dont have another ball I wouldnt do this but the smoking inferno can be tweaked to be one of the best dry lane balls ever made!!!! GL
Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: kingpin268 on February 22, 2006, 07:02:52 PM: Guys, I have personally seen Loud's Smoking and there is no way that ball will handle drier conditions ever. A couple months ago, the lane machine went wild and put down a very long fairly heavy pattern and I observed that everybody's balls were not even losing rotation by the backend including me (but I'm a low tracker lol). But his SI, while it's drilled pretty strong, revved up smoothly in the midlane, went to about 45-50 feet and then made a strong arc. I mean that ball was getting into a roll (probably due to Loud's style and game) while everybody else had trouble getting the ball to wrinkle. So I think the SI is out of the question. For me, with my low track and lower rev rate, could probably use the SI on light to dry conditions with the right drilling and cover prep but not him.

Sam, my advice, dry lanes force many people out of their A-games especially those with higher tracks and revrates. Myself, I'm not as affected by them as you are. Point is, everybody has to make BIG adjustments on dry lanes if your not throwing plastic. In Slatebelt, getting deeper is not the answer in most cases on a reverse block with dry middle and semi-oily outsides. Next time I bowl with you (which wont' be for a while lol), you'll have to experiment with some new releases, etc. But I do agree, you need a dry lane ball, so go ahead and decide. But if you can make a big release change, you can stay with stronger balls longer and not worry about losing carry when switching to weaker multiple piece cores.
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: Loudstriker on February 25, 2006, 08:35:48 PM: I was looking at the Brunswick Ball comparison chart from BTM and I saw that the Dry/R is actually shown weaker than the Groover Urathane. Is this true?
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: sportbowler on February 25, 2006, 11:26:09 PM: XXXL, true dry lane ball. You have high revs it will work out great. I have not heard alot of good things about Dry/r's, very unpredictable from what I have heard. To much cover for the core. I just learned how to take every thing out of the ball and throw it really hard, works great on dry with light equipment.

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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: azguy on February 26, 2006, 06:48:57 AM: If you want to save some money on a good dry lane ball, I'll also suggest a Power Groove. They are a bit stronger than some others mentioned, but...the cover will accept just about anything you want to do with them. Given the right adjustment I'd bet they couls go from med/heavy all the way to bone dry.

A lot of balls will accept changes, have to try them, some just won't. IMO, people will spend to much for a ball they think will work only to see or find out later, something cheaper would work better with cover changes....again, JMO.
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: Loudstriker on February 26, 2006, 12:34:08 PM: Right now I am thinking of getting the Dry/R, taking the cover up to 4000 grit and then applying polish. This should work for the days when lanes havn't been oiled in a couple of days or when there have been many games (9+ games with 5 bowlers on each lanes using monsters). This may be what I'm looking for.
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: kingpin268 on February 26, 2006, 01:42:29 PM: quote:
bowlers on each lanes using monsters

Sorry Sam. lol
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: Loudstriker on February 26, 2006, 01:55:41 PM: Sorry Sam. lol
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Haha, I was actually refering to the tournament when everyone but me seemed to be using a Total Shock and Awe while I was using my trusty Intense.
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Edited on 2/26/2006 2:45 PM
Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: kingpin268 on February 26, 2006, 01:56:59 PM: I was contributing anyways with the Obsession
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: Loudstriker on February 26, 2006, 02:01:23 PM: quote:
I was contributing anyways with the Obsession
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Yeah well, it doesn't matter, even plastic blows a hole in the pattern after three shots at Slate-Belt. That is all your line is good for...three shots and it's gone.
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: Cranking_Inferno on February 27, 2006, 01:24:40 AM: if u drill a Dry/r and u are a high track player... get a long pin out.. like 4 icnches.. because it dont flare very much and will clip the finger holes most likely
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: slowmofo908 on February 27, 2006, 05:09:42 PM: is there a huge difference between the punisher and the dry R? Im a cranker and I am using an Abso. Im bowling 2nd shift and the lanes seem to break down in 1 game. Usually in the 2nd+3rd game my left slide foot is in the gutter and Im throwing all the way to the other gutter. I don't like playing this line so any tips would be appreciated.
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: Dean Richards on February 27, 2006, 06:48:38 PM: quote:
is there a huge difference between the punisher and the dry R? Im a cranker and I am using an Abso. Im bowling 2nd shift and the lanes seem to break down in 1 game. Usually in the 2nd+3rd game my left slide foot is in the gutter and Im throwing all the way to the other gutter. I don't like playing this line so any tips would be appreciated.
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dirty jerz

First off the absolute is money. Second if you want less hook or later reaction so you can move right just polish it up. If you are forced to play that line then next time you practice just work on that line a little more. My favorite lane conditions are when they are burnt and i have to move left and even have to loft a little over the gutter.

deano
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: kmanestor22 on February 27, 2006, 08:34:37 PM: I had the Lane#1 XXXL, the Ebonite V2 Dry, The Power Groove Dry/R, and The Columbia Panic. My choice for dry lanes: A Viz-A-Ball!!! The Dry/R hooked a lot with a label drilling. The Panic hooked a lot with the pin above my bridge! The V2 Dry didn't hook, but it also didn't hit. Finally the viz-a-ball just rolled better and hit harder than the XXXL.
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Title: Re: Struggle looking for a Dry Lane Ball.
Post by: kmanestor22 on February 27, 2006, 08:37:50 PM: quote:
if u drill a Dry/r and u are a high track player... get a long pin out.. like 4 icnches.. because it dont flare very much and will clip the finger holes most likely
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