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walterrayseggs

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Maxxx Zone, RICO, doesn't flare?
« on: November 09, 2008, 01:04:42 PM »
Friend of mine just drilled a Maxxx RICO. Statically it didn't need a hole, and the ball flared backwards. So he took it to -1oz with a 1" hole, 3" deep. No it doesn't go backwards, but it doesn't flare at all.

Anybody have any idea what the cause of this could be?
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JustRico

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Re: Maxxx Zone, RICO, doesn't flare?
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2008, 06:22:50 AM »
What is his PAP? If it flared backwards, it sounds as if his PAP might be close to 6", as placing the pin in the palm, sounds as if it is close enough to his track that it pulled it towards the grip.

If he wants to use this layout and his PAP is close to 6", you may shift the pin over 1" or so from grip center, away from his track.
You can also increase the weight hole size.

And remember, for the true reaction for this layout, THE WEIGHT HOLE IS NECESSARY. That is what creates the asymmetry or strength. You are placing the weight hole 6 3/4" from the primary pin, which increases the overall strength of the core.

"Rico" layout is pin in the palm, cg at a 45 degrees and WEIGHT HOLE at 6 3/4", from the pin through the CG, at 45 degrees. The weight hole has to be deep enough to hit the core to affect it. Statics are irrelevant and do not effect reaction nor should they dictate weight hole, it is necessary to enhance or create reaction and is a must for this reaction.
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walterrayseggs

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Re: Maxxx Zone, RICO, doesn't flare?
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2008, 05:18:56 PM »
I know about the hole and told him that. He resisted

His PAP is like 4.5> 3/4^
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Re: Maxxx Zone, RICO, doesn't flare?
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2008, 07:25:09 PM »
could it be rolling out that quick??? that ball is EARLY and RICO just made it worse IMO.
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Re: Maxxx Zone, RICO, doesn't flare?
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 07:32:15 PM »
I would have it checked to see if there isnt something physically wrong with the ball. I know I drilled up a twisted fury solid with an ounce of top weight cg was in center of grip. Went out and through it and there was no flare. Weighed the ball and it had 2ounces of positive side weight. I put a flare increasing hole in the ball 1inch bit 3inches deep and it flared a little but still not a lot
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walterrayseggs

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Re: Maxxx Zone, RICO, doesn't flare?
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 07:39:12 PM »
I thought maybe the CG was horribly mismarked? BUt he didn't check it before he drilled it, so I don't know if it's possible to find the true CG after drilling or not.
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JustRico

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Re: Maxxx Zone, RICO, doesn't flare?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 07:50:58 PM »
CG placement or amount of top weight is irrelevant in regards to ball reaction. It is pin placement, PSA/mass bias placement (depending on PSA/mass bias strength), weight hole (if there is one & placement) and surface, as far as affecting ball reaction.
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walterrayseggs

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Re: Maxxx Zone, RICO, doesn't flare?
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 09:34:45 PM »
So then seeing as everything now is where it should be, is it a bad ball?
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Re: Maxxx Zone, RICO, doesn't flare?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2008, 09:02:10 PM »
drill the hole..
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walterrayseggs

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Re: Maxxx Zone, RICO, doesn't flare?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2008, 11:52:19 PM »
read the thread...
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Re: Maxxx Zone, RICO, doesn't flare?
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2008, 12:14:21 AM »
Sounds like his PAP measurement may be off.  I would recheck it to make sure it's correct.  If it is correct, recheck the drilling and weight hole placement to make sure everything lines up like it is supposed to for a true RICO layout.  If it isn't correct, he's SOL on this particular layout, and will probably have to plug and re-drill the ball to make it work like it's supposed to.   Good luck.
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Re: Maxxx Zone, RICO, doesn't flare?
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2008, 04:33:03 PM »
I'm certain of his PAP and that the ball was drilled correctly, once the hole was drilled. I've drilled several balls RICO and have had nothing like this happen, if anything, they flare too much and come back over the fingers. He's not a high rev guy by any means though, so that wouldn't be a problem for him anyway. He's already decided to just sell it anyway, too much aggravation for something that is relatively simple.
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