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themachine300

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Will a blue ringer outhook a hyroad?
« on: March 10, 2015, 01:12:31 PM »
Title says it all.  There is a blue ringer in our shop and I was thinking about getting it for my wife.  She uses a pink karma pearl that's shiny and a hyroad at 4000 to get a little bit more hook.  She needs a ball stronger than the hyroad and was thinking about this ball.

Speed 14-15 mph
Revs Lower i would say 220ish
Spinner type release, lower track

The hyroad is drilled i pin up, probably about 4" from pap

The karma is a little bit longer pin and a touch higher above the fingers.  Neither have a weight hole

Thoughts?

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LuckyLefty

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Re: Will a blue ringer outhook a hyroad?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2015, 01:39:49 PM »
The Blue Ringer is a very nice ball!  On medium heavy oil for me it creates a beautiful midlane and a smooth continuous backend, that is rounded.

I have a purple/Pin Karma which is longer and sharper.

I know this, both of the Brunswick balls above have flare potential diffs of near .040.

A HyRoad has a diff right near .047 or .048.  I have also thrown a HyRoad Solid.
To my mind it is a lot like a Blue Ringer in push but stronger in carrydown and backend than the Blue Ringer.

If Stronger was really your goal (ie your wife is pushing the ball too far down the lane without enough backend I would not go down in flare potential to the Ringer.

Great ball the Blue Ringer,  when it is right(ie strong enough in the back I almost don't leave 7 pins as it is so rounded and flush).  When it is wrong, forced too deep inside,  and then squishy soft backends all I do is leave 7 pins!) Lefty!

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Re: Will a blue ringer outhook a hyroad?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2015, 02:50:55 PM »
do you mean more backend or more hook covering more boards? Being a solid compared to a shiny hyroad, the ringer gives you a nice little hook above hyroads (assuming shiny vs dull surface and layouts and all that good stuff).

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Re: Will a blue ringer outhook a hyroad?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2015, 03:03:30 PM »
do you mean more backend or more hook covering more boards? Being a solid compared to a shiny hyroad, the ringer gives you a nice little hook above hyroads (assuming shiny vs dull surface and layouts and all that good stuff).
It says the hyroad is at 4000. Assuming that I believe that the hyroad would still get further down lane than the ringer with more backend pop. The ringer would give you more midlane traction and smoother arc motion on the back. I think they would be pretty close to one another overall so I would look at a stronger overall piece than the ringer.

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Re: Will a blue ringer outhook a hyroad?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2015, 04:37:30 PM »

Will a Ringer Solid out hook a Hyroad? You're comparing a hybrid with a .046 differential to a solid with a .038 differential and according to bowlingball.com, both having similar hook potential numbers.

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themachine300

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Re: Will a blue ringer outhook a hyroad?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2015, 07:58:03 PM »
Yes I in was thinking surface difference and it being a solid would make difference.   It's sometimes difficult to compare different brands so was looking for a potential answer
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Re: Will a blue ringer outhook a hyroad?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2015, 09:22:30 PM »
In short,  given the surface differences and a fresher stronger cover that hooks sooner I would think it would hook more.  In the Brunswick product line a Melee Cross may be a better choice for an even wider difference.
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Re: Will a blue ringer outhook a hyroad?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2015, 11:08:35 PM »
Not even on its best day !