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Stormroto22

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Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« on: October 06, 2015, 06:28:51 PM »
Hey guys, I'm currently using some storm and roto grip equipment and have been interested in brunswick for a while. Wondering what you guys think would be a good league arsenal and maybe some tournaments as well? Currently I have a storm rocket, iq tour solid, ride, and a roto grip hysteria. What do you guys think would be good for brunswick? I don't have my exact parameters, but my rev rate is higher than average, my ball speed is 16.5, right handed. Thanks in advance!
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tkkshop

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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2015, 10:26:07 AM »
Quote from: Stormroto22 on October 08, 2015, 07:06:10 AM
Quote from: tkkshop on October 07, 2015, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: kidlost2000 on October 07, 2015, 08:22:54 PM
As good as anything you have contributed so far.
it looks as if the OP baited you guys. He said in another thread that he is picking up 2 Motiv balls on Friday. I'm sure he appreciates your feedback though.


I didn't bait anyone. I am really considering brunswick. But this whole thread isny even about that anymore. It's people arguing over covers rocks and cores.
the arrogance that Brunswick exudes is appalling. That's what really gets me with this thread. They do no have factual evidence that anything they produce is truly better than anyone else. Yet, Nick said their covers and cores are better than anyone elses. When I say better, I don't mean hook more either. Cause MoRich equipment hooked. But........
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kidlost2000

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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2015, 10:42:39 AM »
Wow tkk bitter much?  What part of any marketing has anyone not said their new stuff is better then previous or the "best in the business,  or world,  or ever". Best warranty,  best core,  best covers,  best shoes.


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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2015, 10:55:44 AM »
Quote from: kidlost2000 on October 08, 2015, 10:42:39 AM
Wow tkk bitter much?  What part of any marketing has anyone not said their new stuff is better then previous or the "best in the business,  or world,  or ever". Best warranty,  best core,  best covers,  best shoes.
he's not marketing. He jut flat out said his stuff is better due to finger scoop tech, which is why I questioned the other cores. And then their coverstock technology is magically better without proof of anything. So you can say bitter, but I'm going with being a realist.
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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2015, 11:10:37 AM »
So you mean BrunsNick? Vs Brunswick?  Referring to the earlier post
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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2015, 11:19:33 AM »
No possibility of appeasing you tkkshop, especially when all you want to do is troll Brunswick any chance you get.
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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2015, 11:25:54 AM »
Quote from: BrunsNick on October 08, 2015, 11:19:33 AM
No possibility of appeasing you tkkshop, especially when all you want to do is troll Brunswick any chance you get.

+1 .... Gotta agree with Nick here ...
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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2015, 01:12:06 PM »
Quote from: tkkshop on October 08, 2015, 10:26:07 AM
Quote from: Stormroto22 on October 08, 2015, 07:06:10 AM
Quote from: tkkshop on October 07, 2015, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: kidlost2000 on October 07, 2015, 08:22:54 PM
As good as anything you have contributed so far.
it looks as if the OP baited you guys. He said in another thread that he is picking up 2 Motiv balls on Friday. I'm sure he appreciates your feedback though.


I didn't bait anyone. I am really considering brunswick. But this whole thread isny even about that anymore. It's people arguing over covers rocks and cores.
the arrogance that Brunswick exudes is appalling. That's what really gets me with this thread. They do no have factual evidence that anything they produce is truly better than anyone else. Yet, Nick said their covers and cores are better than anyone elses. When I say better, I don't mean hook more either. Cause MoRich equipment hooked. But........

Have a Snickers, man.
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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2015, 01:33:14 PM »
Brunsnick is a marketing guy do you expect him to say his product is junk. I'm sure he really believes that overall Brunswick makes the best covers and cores. To expect anything less is unrealistic.

I've generally found him to be a stand up guy and might even admit that there is a motion they lack or a particular ball isn't quite what they have hoped but to expect a marketing/sales guy not to believe his product is superior to another is just foolishness.

I've thrown some of all the major brands except Motiv. The Mastermind series is golden in my opinion. The lt-48 and souls are good balls for the money and I would personally use anything in the Melee line as a anchor (I know some people who do like them).

We each have our opinion none of the manufactures are going to admit to testing their stuff against others and what good motion is subjective to say the least. You don't have to buy it, you don't have to recommend it, but bashing it just because you don't like the product/business choices is useless.
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tkkshop

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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2015, 01:43:04 PM »
Where did I bash? I asked Nick questions and called him arrogant. But where did I say their product was terrible or anything similar to?
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tkkshop

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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2015, 01:44:09 PM »
Quote from: kidlost2000 on October 08, 2015, 11:10:37 AM
So you mean BrunsNick? Vs Brunswick?  Referring to the earlier post
yes. Autocorrect. Thanks
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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2015, 01:52:16 PM »
Quote from: tkkshop on October 08, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
Quote from: kidlost2000 on October 08, 2015, 11:10:37 AM
So you mean BrunsNick? Vs Brunswick?  Referring to the earlier post
yes. Autocorrect. Thanks

Makes sense,  I follow you now
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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2015, 06:15:40 PM »
I haven't seen a lot of love for the two Fortera balls on here. They are on clearance at Buddies and they seemed like they would be pretty good pieces, though I did not throw one myself to confirm. Were the Masterminds and Melees that much better or were the Exile and Intrigue too condition-specific/limited for anyone to recommend?
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JamminJD

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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2015, 07:48:07 PM »
This might not be worth mentioning, but I haven't really thrown much Big B the last 10 years. I actually had a c system(maxxed out) and a meanstreak brawler and loaded revolver and really liked those pieces.

Then I started catching some crap for throwing Big B for the not made in USA reason, so I fell to pressure and stopped using them, but bowled really well including some honor scores.

Fast forward to now, I just got a Rhino Pro and LT-48 and a Mastermind Scholar and some Radical, Guru Mighty and Yeti Uncaged.

Ended up using the Rhino and LT all night and shot 707 and absolutely love both balls!! Very impressed and a lot of what I used to remember about Big B great ball motion! Like what I see so far.


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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #74 on: October 09, 2015, 08:36:11 AM »
Quote from: Walking E on October 08, 2015, 06:15:40 PM
I haven't seen a lot of love for the two Fortera balls on here. They are on clearance at Buddies and they seemed like they would be pretty good pieces, though I did not throw one myself to confirm. Were the Masterminds and Melees that much better or were the Exile and Intrigue too condition-specific/limited for anyone to recommend?

The Mastermind line is just better. I purchased the Exile since it was la pearl and there was not a pearl ball in the mastermind line at the time. Ok ball but I preferred the polished Intillect over the Exile.

The Mastermind has been discontinued. For me it is the best oiler since the Virtual Gravity; same motion, just stronger. You should pick one up for 99 bucks.

Until the IQ Tour fusion came out, I was throwing mostly Storm. I think Storm's ride on the wave is about to end and that Brunswick will continue to pick up if they continue with the quality they produced in the Mastermind line.

Brunswick also has great customer service.
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amyers2002

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Re: Thinking of switching companies, need ideas on a new arsenal
« Reply #75 on: October 09, 2015, 10:36:27 AM »
I agree with CCrider the Mastermind series is just that good. I haven't thrown any of the exile series but from what I have heard from friends is the original exile had over under issues and was either the best ball you threw or the worst and you never knew which it was going to be. The Intrigue was better but just not up to what the masterminds are.
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