Post by: charlest on April 17, 2012, 08:45:48 AM
No one even mentions that Rash, a Brunswick staffer, won the Tournament of Champions?
No one even mentions that Rash won using a Versa-max?
These are strange times.
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Post by: Sunshine n Lollipops on April 17, 2012, 09:43:13 AM
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Post by: TWOHAND834 on April 17, 2012, 10:40:47 AM
Charlest,
There is a huge discussion in the forum titles "Congrats to Rash" in the PBA Forum.
Peace doesnt always have to be silent.
Post by: scotts33 on April 17, 2012, 10:42:04 AM
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Post by: on April 17, 2012, 10:53:27 AM
Both he and Ciminelli bowled great.
Rash using the Versa Max and Ryan using the Nexxus P=R shined up. Did they say that Sean Rash set the season average record? Does anyone have those details?
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Post by: charlest on April 17, 2012, 11:06:25 AM
I saw all that.
But this is THE Brunswick forum. Instead of all the "discussion/argument" about whether or not to post SPOILER int he heading, why is there no BRUNSWICK discussion here about THEIR staffer and THEIR ball?
Like, Rash is #1 in average breaking a PBA record and in points thru the season, yet he has only this one win.
Like, all the discussion on TV was whether Belmonte or Fagan woudl win and how that would affect Bowler of the year honors, yet Rash threw a huge monkey wrench into the voting and how will they determine the winner now???
That's my point. I really thought it would be a major BRUNSWICK discussion, not just a PBA discussion.
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Post by: Bill Thomas on April 17, 2012, 05:40:40 PM
O.K. Sean Rash should be POY.
Post by: charlest on April 17, 2012, 05:49:38 PM
I just expected more from the Brunswick fans.
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Post by: TWOHAND834 on April 17, 2012, 07:07:47 PM
Yeah. Even though he only won once, he probably should get it. Sets the average record. Made what...8 shows? Points Leader. And the win was the TOC. Could be the toughest voting yet considering the years that Fagan and Belmo had.
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Post by: tommyboy74 on April 17, 2012, 09:35:58 PM
Don't forget that Duke had a few titles in there also. But you are right in saying it will be a very tough vote. My guess is that Rash could potentially edge out Belmonte and Fagan on the fact of winning another major, having the highest average, and being the points leader for the year.
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Post by: Brickguy221 on April 17, 2012, 09:49:47 PM
Although I am not a Rash fan by any means, if I was one of the voters, my vote would definitely go to Rash, hands down. In my opinion, he is the most deserving of the three.
It was nice to see the finals dominated by Brunswick for a change. Reminds me of the older days when Brunswick dominated. It has been an up hill climb for Brunswick since moving to Mexico, but it appears Brunswick has arrived and I think they are going to stay there for a while. They probably have the best lineup of balls that they have had for a long time.
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Post by: MrPerfect on April 18, 2012, 09:45:08 AM
I was just disappointed to learn that Rash wasn't throwing a Quantum Raven.
Post by: Nails on April 18, 2012, 11:27:43 AM
The only negative to Rash is that he had so much success at one venue. We all know bowlers tend to match up, good or bad, to different houses, lane surfaces, carry characteristics, oils... If the PBA had a "normal" schedule instead of the WSOB Rash would have a stronger argument. It's not his fault and he did it on multiple patterns, but to me it's a little less impressive. It always a hard decision when one person has a lot of stats and few titles and another has less stats and more titles. Should be an interesting vote.
Telling it like it is.
Post by: Bill Thomas on April 18, 2012, 01:06:03 PM
Nails,
What you say is true and applies to Belmonte even moreso. Didn't he win 3 titles in something like 1 day on the same lanes?
Post by: Nails on April 18, 2012, 02:30:24 PM
Could be. I don't even know when/how they bowled the individual events of the WSOB. Were they consecutive days, or weeks, or? They showed those things in a kind of random order. Rash was on like 6? consecutive (TV) shows so it was easy to pin point him. Belmo's were a little more scattered about. I was making more of a general point since people are also talking about Duke and Fagan also. Heck, two of Duke's titles weren't even televised. The WSOB makes this year's voting very interesting.
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Post by: mainzer on April 18, 2012, 07:22:44 PM
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Post by: Mbosco on April 18, 2012, 09:43:02 PM
I'd like to point out one thing about the "average record" (I think this instance of breaking the record is a joke, and here's why). I seem to remember seeing that Rash beat Duke's old record by something like a pin and a half or two pins, right? Did you see how many games that was over? I think it was 282 for Rash compared to 400 for Duke. That means Duke bowled more than 30% more games for his record. Even allowing the averages to be compared to one another is kind of ridiculous.
Post by: Andyman3333 on April 18, 2012, 09:52:23 PM
Rash doesn't make the records, he just breaks them. Lol. Really, its not his fault. High average in any league is typically 2/3 of the season. And 282 is better than 2/3 of 400 so I don't see how it can't be recognized. Considering he bowled in all but 1 tournament for an entire PBA season. Again, not his fault there were fewer games and less events. It is what it is.
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Post by: charlest on April 18, 2012, 10:18:43 PM
No,I don't.
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