OK.I found out through this post that, some places everyone bowls ONLY with the VZ....Because it's the best ball on earth.Other places, no one uses the VZ, because it sucks.Sounds like a Lane #1 clone...except it doesn't cost $300. Funny there's no "in between."Duke Harding----------------------------------------------------------------------------Good luck with yours. I hope it's one you'll like. I've got one of everything from Brunswick, and this one is a real keeper because I can ALWAYS find a shot with it.--------------------notclay