Post by: Storm269 on November 09, 2007, 01:03:49 PM
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Post by: 302efi on November 09, 2007, 10:03:34 PM
What differences did you guys notice when you tested it with the Rough-buff vs High Gloss ?
What kind of (if any) reaction changes would you see going with the polish vs instead of the Rough-buff ?
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Post by: Storm269 on November 10, 2007, 02:31:37 AM
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Post by: RandyO on November 10, 2007, 10:29:00 AM
Yet reaction numbers are identical to the Original Inferno.
How much difference would there be between a TF and an II given equal surface prep??
Post by: RandyO on November 10, 2007, 10:57:49 AM
Edited on 11/10/2007 1:27 PM
Post by: Verbs on November 12, 2007, 10:20:56 AM
I have drilled 2 TF's. Both with the primary pin at 5" from axis, but one with the psa at 55 degrees and one at 30 degrees in relationship to my axis.
What I have noticed with the TF is the ball is very different from anything Brunswick has ever produced. It is VERY CLEAN through the fronts and more angular in the backend.
I would agree with Rico that the PF would be a bit more overall, but earlier and smoother than the TF.
The TF is much more versatile than the PF or even the Vapor Zone.
As Rico stated, this cover is very versatile. It takes surface adjustments very well. Plus, I really like the core. The overall dif. is low enough to allow the driller to use several different pin placements. With past Brunswick asymmetric cores, high rev. players were very limited in pin and psa placements. With the lower overall dif., higher rg and higher intermediate dif., this will allow the driller to be "creative" for every type of player.
One other thing I want to mention, the color combination is very good with this ball. The colors are vibrant, but not so contrasting that it is difficult to read ball reaction.
Verbs
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Post by: Verbs on November 12, 2007, 10:44:13 AM
I used it this weekend on the 44' Shark pattern after they broke down. I like using this psa layout on longer patterns, or when there isn't significant dry to throw to. It will help in not overshooting the breakpoint.
What I really liked about the Twisted, it seemed to give me a board or two more recovery than any other ball I had in my bag, Brunswick or other.
One thing I think we need to mention Ric, with the higher rg and lower overall dif., drillers should drill this ball with the pin about 1/2" stronger.
For instance, if you like a Vapor Zone with a primary pin 5" from axis, don't be afraid to drill the Twisted 4 1/2" from axis.
Verbs
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Post by: Verbs on November 12, 2007, 10:59:48 AM
The 30 degree psa is one of my favorites with Vapors, and is now with the Twisted.
Verbs
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Post by: Rc Charger on November 12, 2007, 05:33:35 PM
Edited on 11/12/2007 6:33 PM
Post by: Corey C on November 12, 2007, 11:05:58 PM
What do you think? Should we put the other Twisted at 4.5" high pin with a 30 degree layout?
Verbs,
What are your pin locations? They're both 5" high or low?
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Post by: Verbs on November 13, 2007, 05:39:50 AM
My pin placement's are 5", below the fingers.
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Larry Verble
Post by: AngloBowler on November 16, 2007, 02:03:49 PM
Looking at the numbers this appears to compare well (dynamically at least) with the Impulse Zone, I assume they'd be similar in terms of hook, but the impulse would be earlier and smoother?
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Post by: Lycan on November 19, 2007, 06:53:16 PM
Post by: T-GOD on November 20, 2007, 09:16:42 AM
quote:
I have drilled 2 TF's. Both with the primary pin at 5" from axis, but one with the psa at 55 degrees and one at 30 degrees in relationship to my axis.
quote:What's going on here..? If the pin is in the same place/same distance from the PAP, the reaction will be the same..!! Core angle doesn't matter..!! Stop drinking the Kool Aid or go over to the Lane #1 forum..!! =:^D
The 30 degree definately starts up a bit sooner.
Post by: WSUstroker on November 20, 2007, 09:25:59 AM
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Post by: bluerrpilot on November 20, 2007, 10:57:01 AM
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