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Juggernaut

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Anybody thrown a "reactive" sidewinder?
« on: November 30, 2008, 01:59:04 AM »
If so, what kind of feedback could you give me, compared to other Brunswick balls?  I have toyed with the idea of getting one and just wanted to know what the guys who have used one have thought of it.

  If anyone out there has video of the reactive version, that would be great also.
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Re: Anybody thrown a "reactive" sidewinder?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2008, 04:21:28 PM »
It will be a slightly (emphasis on slightly) weaker version of a Monster Bruiser.

Core numbers are similar, but the cover of the reactive Sidewinder, while PowerKoil based, is not quite as strong as PowerKoil 18 which is on the Bruiser.

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Re: Anybody thrown a "reactive" sidewinder?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2008, 05:37:47 PM »
I have a sidewinder drilled pin under the ring finger, with the cg kicked out 2 inches from the center of grip...its pretty nice rolling...it really grabs in the mid lanes and makes an extra smooth move once it touches the backends
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Re: Anybody thrown a "reactive" sidewinder?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2008, 09:32:17 PM »
I have one that is drilled 4.5 from my PAP, pin down and CG a 45 degrees. Similar to the Brunswick Advanced asymmetrical drilling on their web site. The result...very clean through the front and strong move on the backend. It ends up being a hybrid reactive, it does not overreact. In terms of what brunswick ball does it remind me of...I agree with the bruiser comparison. But, feel that mine rolls closer to my Monster SmashR and my Red Fuze. My SmashR is drill label leverage, is sanded to 320 sand paper with a heavy coat of high gloss polish. The SmashR is earlier than the Sidewinder but, the look of both balls is similar overall. If you have a chance to pick one up, I would not hesitate. I grabbed one when I watched a friend's ball. If I could make a suggestion to Brunswick, I would say this is a very lucky mistake. I would change the colors and name and market it in the link as a reactive hybrid.

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Re: Anybody thrown a "reactive" sidewinder?
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 07:44:13 PM »
I had both versions of the Sidewinder when I was still able to throw 15# equipment.

The particle version was a variant of the RICO layout where the pin was set about an inch above my grip center.  Very good ball for evening out wet/dry shots.  Sold it to a local college bowler who has since put up a 300 and 800 with it using the same layout.  The pin ends up being in a stronger position for him though.

The reactive version was stronger/earlier, but I feel that was in part to the fresher coverstock and the layout.  Pin is about 3 1/2" from my PAP and the pin is within an inch of my VAL.

On the same lane I would have to play a tighter line with the reactive version, whereas the particle version gave me more recovery off of the dry boards.

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Re: Anybody thrown a "reactive" sidewinder?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2008, 10:07:29 AM »
I have a both versions of the Sidewinder.  The original particle one is phenominal at evening out over/under conditions, still pretty clean considering its a Brunswick Particle ball, and overall a great medium condition ball.  The reactive one... Well, this ball is unbelievable.  Reminds me exactly of my Red Fuze.  Very clean, with a very strong midlane read and continues through the pins.  My one down fall is that on something fresher with clean backends you will tend to leave more 9-pins than with other balls because this ball changes directions tremendously.
I definitely have to agree with FranV that this would be a wonderful addition to their performance series.  
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Re: Anybody thrown a "reactive" sidewinder?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2008, 06:38:36 PM »
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doesnt the copperhead have the same block and pk18, If so it would be the same ball right?
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  I don't think so.  Verbs said that the sidewinder was powerkoil based, but WAS NOT powerkoil18.  Said it was something a little less volatile, so I was thinking pk17, or maybe less.

  Wasn't pk17 used on the sapphire zone?  Could the reactive sidewinder be a ROCKET core with a hybrid pk17 cover maybe?
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