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charlest

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Twisted Fury Solid surface finish?
« on: April 19, 2009, 07:42:17 AM »
It says "1000 grit wet sand".

Is that a 2000 grit Abralon pad (P2000 grit = 1000 grit US).
Is that a 1000 grit sanded wet/dry sandpaper?
Is that a Scotch brite light grey nylon pad? (some call it 800 grit US, some call it 1000 grit US.)

Thanks.

(Yes, I know I can finish it any way I prefer.)
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Re: Twisted Fury Solid surface finish?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2009, 05:03:42 PM »
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I don't get it.  


HeHeheHeHe.....

 
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Does it matter what it is vs. what works?


It matters if what works is what it is, and you want to reproduce it.

charlest, please post if you get an answer. I have a friend with a well used Twisted Fury, and he's been asking me to refinish if for him. He likes it, and wants to get it close to NIB reaction.

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Re: Twisted Fury Solid surface finish?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2009, 06:22:58 PM »
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OH, wow.....does this mean you are trolling?


No, it means you are trolling.

If you don't get it, there is nothing Steven or I or anyone can do to help you, if that's what you really want, which I doubt. I believe you just want an argument, and I will not give it to you.
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Re: Twisted Fury Solid surface finish?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2009, 06:56:28 PM »
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If you don't get it, there is nothing Steven or I or anyone can do to help you


charlest: Hopefully it helps for him to hear the message from someone other than me...

Anyway, on the Twisted Fury I'm looking to refinish, it's fairly beat up. He's been using it at a poorly maintained wood house, and the ball looks like it's been through a war. Not a lot of deep groves, but it definitely needs work.

I was thinking of going the route of a through application of 360 Abralon, followed by a light application of 500 Abralon, followed by a 'careful' application of 2000 Abralon. Kind of the process that's been outlined by Roto Grip in the Coverstock forum thread (I've been looking for an opportunity to try that out). First, I'll have him test it out for breakpoint reaction, and apply another round of 2000 Abralon if he needs less surface for fine tuning. Do you have another suggestion for moving forward on this??

Edited on 4/20/2009 7:03 PM

charlest

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Re: Twisted Fury Solid surface finish?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2009, 07:18:53 PM »
Steven,

That's not an unreasonable first attempt. I'm drilling one tomorrow and, because I don't know exactly what it is, I have decided to start with 2000 grit Abralon (P2000 grit), as my first surface. I want it to be earlier and more overall hook than either my Ultra Zone (@ 4000 grit Abralon) or the Twisted Fury Pearl (@ stock Rough Buff finish).

If 360 Ab, 500 Ab + 2000 Abralon pad does not provide adequate length, then add the missing 1000 grit Abralon pad, followed by the 2000 Abralon pad. That will smooth out the left over 500 Abralon grooves (as in a normal sanding process). The next, of course, is 4000 Abralon pad. Valentino's has a P3000 grit pad, but that may be too fine a line.

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charlest

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Re: Twisted Fury Solid surface finish?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2009, 07:23:05 PM »
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I miss Brunsnick and JustRico.  They were really the only people that made this whole website tolerable.


If it's so intolerable, why do you persist in inflicting your prejudices on everyone else?

Do you really need to draw so much attention to yourself in order to fulfill yourself as a human being, while trying to denigrate everyone else?
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Re: Twisted Fury Solid surface finish?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2009, 07:29:11 PM »
charlest, thanks for the additional information. I want a couple of different routes to try. He's a good friend, and he's really touchy about his ball surfaces. Life was easier when his ball of choice was a Super Carbide Bomb, and all I had to do was refresh it with 35 Micron Trizact.

CRD, as always, thanks for your entertainment value. If you're nostalgic for Nick, e-mail him to buy one of his vintage "CGNOMADDAH" shirts. You can reproduce those shivers of delight, and think happy thoughts every time you wear it.  

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charlest

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Re: Twisted Fury Solid surface finish?
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 10:41:51 PM »
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First, this thread shouldn't even be here.  Take it over to the coverstock preparation forum.  

Second, everyone knows what steven has to offer the site.  The p.m.'s sent to me complaining about him and his attitude, the fact that people on the Lane #1 forum have asked him to shut up already, say all there is to say.

Third, charlest, I don't even know why you are here.  Every post you have mentions ball finish.  "Got this ball, didn't like it 'til I hit with 2000 abralon".  Or it is a post wringing your hands over how to sand a ball the correct way.  Fortunately, there are still enough posters that offer interesting takes on ball that more than make up for your 2000 abralon answer to everything.  You don't like it, put me on your iggy list.

"none are so blind as those who will not see because their head is buried over a ball spinner all the time"



Do you really need to draw so much attention to yourself in order to fulfill yourself as a human being, while trying to denigrate everyone else?

That still about covers every post you have ever made. You offer absolutely nothing that shares information, except trying to belittle everyone else's attempt at helping. If that is the only thing in your life that makes you feel better, you have my sincere condolences.


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Re: Twisted Fury Solid surface finish?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 09:29:54 AM »
CRD, I find Charlest's post informative. As a new "NERD" bowler, (proud of that, I am a paid NERD in real life) I have learned from Charlest, I come to this forum to learn exactly the things he and others like him post. perhaps you could start a blog for yourself and entertain yourself all day long. Then others could come and read the things that interest you.
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Re: Twisted Fury Solid surface finish?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2009, 03:10:27 PM »
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your whining about not knowing how to duplicate a OOB finish doesn't help anybody either.


Are you delerious?
If you can't find anything to criticize, you just make up some utter jibberish?

In case you don't really understand English, "1000 grit wet sand" can be interpreted 2 ways, depending on how they did the finishinf. Asking what they mean is not whining, by any stretch of the imagination. If you're such a know-it-all, why didn't you just answer the question, instead of criticizing me for even asking the question?

Oh, gosh, I forgot. That's all you can do is criticize. Pity.
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Edited on 4/22/2009 3:16 PM
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Re: Twisted Fury Solid surface finish?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2009, 03:12:06 PM »
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CRD, I find Charlest's post informative. As a new "NERD" bowler, (proud of that, I am a paid NERD in real life) I have learned from Charlest, I come to this forum to learn exactly the things he and others like him post. perhaps you could start a blog for yourself and entertain yourself all day long. Then others could come and read the things that interest you.
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Thanks, NewInBox.
That's the whole idea behind ballreviews.com: to share what you know and learn what you can.
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Re: Twisted Fury Solid surface finish?
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2009, 03:18:19 PM »
Ok. enough is enough.
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