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Dewey24

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Twisted Surface adjustments?
« on: January 11, 2008, 01:53:17 AM »
Recently purchased a twisted. It's drilled 4 1/2 Pin to PAp, which places the pin above the ring finger, with a balance hole on the Pap to bring it back to USBC weights, MB at 45 degrees. I bowled in league last night with fresh back ends on a 36ft house pattern buffed to 38ft.  The ball was flying! My question is has anyone altered their surface yet and to what extent. Would taking the ball to 2000 abralon settle it down enough or should I try and throw some polish on it. Any suggestions are appreciated.

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Dewey24

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Re: Twisted Surface adjustments?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2008, 10:13:48 AM »
Thanks Ric!

Phoneman

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Re: Twisted Surface adjustments?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2008, 10:21:34 AM »
Let us know what you try and how it works.  My twisted should be here this afternoon.

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Re: Twisted Surface adjustments?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2008, 10:24:13 AM »
Sure not a problem

BrunsBob

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Re: Twisted Surface adjustments?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2008, 09:14:11 PM »
I found, on mine, that adjusting the surface with grit (2000 for me) made the ball much more controllable in the mid-lane, and increased it's backend move because it read the lane better. In its out of box finish, it went a bit too long on oil and sometimes missed the backend reaction. So, Ric's advice to try it both ways is a good idea. Sometimes a little scuff can tame down the backend look. Sometimes it can make the ball read better, thus increasing it's ability to move more on the back. Same goes for polishing. Sometimes it can make a ball skid more and store energy for a stronger backend. Sometimes polish can make it skid right through the breakpoint making it ineffective on the backends. Depends on the conditions and what ball your trying to match up to that condition.

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Peigh101

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Re: Twisted Surface adjustments?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2008, 09:03:40 AM »
I tried my new Twisted last night in league. Out of the box ,No 1 drill pattern
pin under the fingers. First game 276,next game carry down the ball kept
going through break point. shot 190, Next game kept moving right the ball would do nothing,kept leaving a bucket. Switched to Angular one to salvage game 190. This ball does not like oil even with 2000 sanding.

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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2008, 09:27:35 AM »
Peigh, "for you" this ball does not like oil even with 2000 sanding. For others it is plenty. But yes, it is best when used on medium conditions for most. From what it sounds like, you got about the same results with yours as I did when I tried mine (2000) on a fairly wet fresh condition. As long as the backends were still clean mine even worked on the fresh oil. But as soon as the heavy oil carried down it was definitely not the right ball for that. From that I move back to my Fury Pearl that handles the oil and the carrydown.

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Peigh101

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Re: Twisted Surface adjustments?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2008, 09:53:12 AM »
Brunsbob you are right,you describe the situation to perfection.

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Re: Twisted Surface adjustments?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2008, 03:39:30 PM »
gee rob, is there anything you dont know? (not being sarcastic).. your like a miniature buddah.... with hair
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Re: Twisted Surface adjustments?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2008, 04:30:43 PM »
You think I got hair now, I think I lost about 7 pounds just by keeping that mop cut that I used to sport. Well, lost 7 there and found another 25 to make up for it. Anyway, I'm definitely not the guru when it comes to the techy stats like my boy Hamlin, but I do know how to see ball reaction and motion. Not that I know what to do with that knowledge for myself, but I have helped a few others.

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normy48

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Re: Twisted Surface adjustments?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2008, 12:37:33 PM »
With my twisted over the last month im averaging 163 the first game and 261 the last game. I am constantly throwing the ball through the break point the first game (btw its a fresh pattern ths). I have been thinking about altering the surface as well. If I do what would be a good modification do you think?

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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2008, 01:15:34 PM »
Normy,

Can you start the first game closer to friction?  It seems to me that if your last game is that good then the backends are pretty clean, and you should be able to play a straighter outside line for game 1.


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normy48

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Re: Twisted Surface adjustments?
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2008, 01:28:41 PM »
Yes sir I did that last league night. I had a better first game. Moved 5 boards right on the approach and 2 right on the lane. Had a 182 214 244. I guess Ill give it a coupla more weeks.
Quick question as well. What grit would a scotch brite pad be equal to?

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Re: Twisted Surface adjustments?
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2008, 01:39:54 PM »
What color?

Here's my "unofficial" break down:

Burgundy - treads on the ball

Green - smaller treads on the ball (800?)

Grey - Most useful in my opinion, worn out with high speed and water do great work. Can get a ball between 1500-2000 depending on speed, water, hand pressure, etc.

White - Also good, can shine a ball with water and higher speeds.

Gold - Can really shine a ball nicely from what I've heard.

From time to time, someone posts the actual grit numbers on these. I'm just going by my personal experience at the shop.





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normy48

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Re: Twisted Surface adjustments?
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2008, 04:07:08 PM »
It is a green one. Thanks notclay for all the info. Been bowling 10 years and never knew I knew so little