I have a 31/2" pin to cg ultra but don`t know if I should go pin under or pin over at 45*. I have a Twisted drilled pin under 4" @ 45* that I love and dont want to duplicate with the Ultra if I drill the Ultra pin over. What I want is a heavyer oil reaction layout, but with the 3 1/2" pin to cg would put the cg way to the right of grip,extra big bal. hole I guess.  Thanks

Thanks again Drrev 2000, I understand what you are saying. I`m going to go ahead and drill it to Mo`s Vangard core drill sheet low tracker with sharp break. Put balance hole from center of grip thru cg on val should be okay. Mike