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hellodjhjr

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Pin/Top Weight Suggestion needed...
« on: July 22, 2005, 07:50:02 PM »
Unsure if this belongs here as I posted in Miscellaneous as well.  Delete if necessary....



Not really sure what role pin and top weight have in purchasing new equipment.  I am planning to buy a couple balls soon (Strike Zone to replace my Ultimate Inferno, Smokin Inferno to replace an Absolute Inferno that I just don't like, and much later in the year a Red Pin Zone Classic for a legit light oil ball).

Qubica scoreboards measures me in the range of 16.5 - 18.5 MPH.  People that watch me say I put a lot of "hand/finger" on the ball, getting a decent amount of revs.  Not really a cranker, more of a tweener.  My track is that of a full roller.  I bowl predominantly on wood lanes if it means anything.

In the past I've gone with 2"-3" with 2-3 ounces TW just to be safe I guess.  But I'd still like to know what effect or difference does pin selection and top weight make?  Any suggestions of what I should go for based on reading this?

 

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Re: Pin/Top Weight Suggestion needed...
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2005, 11:54:53 AM »
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The higher the top weight the longer the ball will go.  I agree with this to a point, but coverstock prep, core, and drilling will influence the reaction much more.  I suggest you continue to purchase 2-3" pins and 2-3 oz top weight unless you want to put the pin above the fingers.  A 3-4" pin would be a better choice for that IMO.
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Ditto, this pretty much covers it all.  When I order stuff online, I always request 2-3 top and 2-3 pin.  It gives you plenty of drilling options.

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DON DRAPER

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Re: Pin/Top Weight Suggestion needed...
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2005, 05:16:07 PM »
a pin out distance of 3-4 inches and a top weight aroung 3 ounces is usually good enough for most applications.

hellodjhjr

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Re: Pin/Top Weight Suggestion needed...
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2005, 07:19:41 AM »
I'd like to really try something different than what I usually buy (2-3" pin, 2-3 oz TW).  When I get something new, I usually get my equipment drilled by Lonce (Next Level ProShop).  On my Ultimate Inferno the setup looks similar to, but not exact, like this:

..O.O.*
............
............9
............
...O......

O's being finger holes, * = the pin, 9 = a weight hole.  because I track full roller, the ball would track left of the ring finger but over the thumb hole sometimes.  To fix that problem, he drilled my Original Inferno something like this:

.........*
.......9
.........
.O.O..
.........
..O.....

the finger holes are drilled through the label, the pin is much further away from the fingers, with the weight hole placed underneath.  With this, the ball tracks across the span (left of ring, right of thumb) without hitting any of the holes.

Not sure if any of your suggestions would change based on seeing this.  From what I get so far, 2-3 pin/top is most universal.

Edited on 7/24/2005 7:17 AM

Moose Nugget

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Re: Pin/Top Weight Suggestion needed...
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2005, 09:00:09 PM »
Since you are a full roller you need your pin on or above your val (Vertical Axis Line).  Placing your pin beyond the val will cause your ball to flair counter-clockwise (left to right) and away from your fingers and thumb.  Your Ultimate is drilled for a 3/4 roller or spinner which flares cockwise.  Since your track runs between your finger and thumb holes that layout will flare over one or all of your holes and make some ugly noises as it travels down the lane.  A longer pin will give you more drilling options.  Top weights really don't have any impact on how a ball rolls when thrown.
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Edited on 7/27/2005 8:54 PM