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Title: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: brumichen on January 22, 2011, 02:08:01 AM
I know this is an old ball ,but I like it.trying to find a new ball that rolls like it has proven to be hard. I have spoke to 3 area pro shops and the answers raise more questions than answer can any one tell me what the coverstock is and the core because I thought it is urethane and now one pro shop tells me it could be reactive since they made 2 versions of this ball and how can you tell the difference


Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: rb27 on January 22, 2011, 10:17:07 AM
Weren't the MVP's PowerKoil Reactives with a symmetrical weight blocks?


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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: krs99300 on January 22, 2011, 10:20:47 AM
if memory serves all three were reactive.

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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: DON DRAPER on January 22, 2011, 10:30:03 AM
The Walter Ray Williams, Jr. MVP had Brunswick's PowrSurge reactive coverstock and the core that was first used in the Rhino Pro LE and later the Johnny Petraglia LT-48 Gold.

Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: Strider on January 22, 2011, 01:12:22 PM
http://www.bowlingballvault.com/companies/3-brunswick/579-walter-ray-williams-jr-mvp

 

Only one listed here.  Powersurge (reactive) cover with a more or less mushroom shaped core.


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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: charlest on January 22, 2011, 05:00:06 PM
Bingo!
RG=2.55, DIff=.031, Max RG=2.581
Power Surge coverstock also used on the Combat Zone, Quantum Raven, and Attitude II.
BUT not used on the Johnny Petraglia LT-48 Gold, which was PowerKoil 18. 
 
Definitely Reactive, NOT urethane. 
101960 wrote on 1/22/2011 11:30 AM:The Walter Ray Williams, Jr. MVP had Brunswick's PowrSurge reactive coverstock and the core that was first used in the Rhino Pro LE and later the Johnny Petraglia LT-48 Gold.



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Edited by charlest on 1/22/2011 at 6:01 PM
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: DON DRAPER on January 23, 2011, 06:56:54 PM
Charlest, I was only referring to the core. The core in the Rhino Pro LE, Johnny Petraglia LT-48 Gold, and the Walter Ray Williams, Jr. MVP all used the same mushroom-shaped core.

Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: charlest on January 24, 2011, 07:18:09 AM
But the LT-48 Gold was closer to the Danger Zone Red Alert core in RG and Diff numbers.
Minimum RG2.503
Total Differential0.055
 
101960 wrote on 1/23/2011 7:56 PM:Charlest, I was only referring to the core. The core in the Rhino Pro LE, Johnny Petraglia LT-48 Gold, and the Walter Ray Williams, Jr. MVP all used the same mushroom-shaped core.



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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: DON DRAPER on January 24, 2011, 01:19:12 PM
True, but I was just referring to the general shape of the core......

Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: bltbyj on January 24, 2011, 01:51:22 PM
If you use 16lb I know where there is a NIB WRW Jr MVP ball.


Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: brumichen on January 25, 2011, 04:38:02 PM
does anyone know of a ball currently on the market with a similar coverstock,weight block?


Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: charlest on January 25, 2011, 08:06:01 PM
Based on my experience with it, the Avalanche Urethane is as close to the WRW MVP as you can get currently. They don't make balls that weak anymore. The AU is not a joke ball. The WRW MVP was a very early rolling, very small backend ball for me. In fact, the AU, if anything is a better all around ball with more backend and more control than the WRW MVP.
 
brumichen wrote on 1/25/2011 5:38 PM:
does anyone know of a ball currently on the market with a similar coverstock,weight block?




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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: BrunsNick on January 26, 2011, 01:07:13 AM
One of my FAVORITE Brunswick balls ever!!

 



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Edited by BrunsNick on 1/26/2011 at 2:07 AM
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: dizzyfugu on January 28, 2011, 07:22:59 AM
IMHO, if you can find an Avalanche Pearl - the first, discontinued one, in blue and silver - this should be very close. Its cover was N'Control PowerBoost, a late generation coverstock from the Combat Zone's cover family, probaly 4th generation. Surely more itchy, but also intended for lighter conditions with good length and a rather snappy reaction to the dry. The Urethane Avalanche should basically handle similar conditions, but more smoothly.


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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr MVP
Post by: BrunsNick on January 28, 2011, 09:20:48 AM
Maybe my WRW was gifted, because it HOOKED!


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