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PowrKoil17 · « **on:** January 29, 2012, 09:13:06 AM »

I want to bridge the gap between my Green/Blue Centaur and my Ogre SS. Would a pin under Slingshot work or maybe an Avalanche pearl. Also wondering about an Inferno or something else with the Activator coverstock. I want smooth not jumpy.

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tommyboy74 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2012, 05:40:04 PM »

I looked at the Visionary line and the Centaur is for heavy oil while the Ogre SS is designed for medium-light conditions. Just wanted to ask for clarification since this is a bigger gap to fill with a weak pearl. Also, can you provide your stats? That can help us better provide some suggestions. Thanks.

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Strider · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2012, 05:49:02 PM »

Tommy, the B/G Centaur is very weak. Super high RG and very low differential. The rest of the Centaur line was much stronger.

The Slingshot might be a little strong to fit unless drilled pretty weak. I would also think any of the Activator line would also be too strong. There were several Avalanches to choose from, but from what I've read, one of them might be your best bet.

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kidlost2000 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2012, 06:16:15 PM »

Slingshot would work however you choose to drill it. Then adjust surface as needed to get best desired results.

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tommyboy74 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2012, 06:52:32 PM »

You're right Strider- my mistake. When I researched it earlier, I mixed it up with the wrong Centaur.

I do agree that the Activator covers are going to be stronger than what you may be looking for. However, you can always drill on the weaker side if needed and/or adjust the covers to match the conditions. The Avalanches are also a good choice if you want to go that route.

If you were to look at Track, a good fit could be the 300C. It has the weakest pearl cover in their lineup but reads the midlane well and isn't too jumpy on the backend. It carries very well and is a very nice alternative.

Strider wrote on 1/29/2012 6:49 PM:
Tommy, the B/G Centaur is very weak. Super high RG and very low differential. The rest of the Centaur line was much stronger.

The Slingshot might be a little strong to fit unless drilled pretty weak. I would also think any of the Activator line would also be too strong. There were several Avalanches to choose from, but from what I've read, one of them might be your best bet.

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Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 2000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Storm Anarchy: 1500 polished
Medium-Heavy Oil: Track 919C: 3000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Ebonite Vital Energy: 4000 AB
Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished

Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished

Edited by tommyboy74 on 1/29/2012 at 7:56 PM

charlest · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2012, 08:01:49 AM »

Not sure about the Slingshot.

My Slingshot (pin above the ring finger) fits below the BG Centaur whether the BGC is at the stock surface or even 4000 grit.

I'd say we should know what the surface and drilling is for the Ogre SS and the BG Centaur first. I can't fit anything between my Ogre SS and my BG Centaur. Plus their ball paths are very different even if both are not snappy.

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Edited by charlest on 1/30/2012 at 4:28 PM

« **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2012, 10:57:08 AM »

You might consider the Avalanche Pearl Urethane. A slower response to friction while still maintaining excellent carry.

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TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2012, 01:07:52 PM »

I agree! There isnt much of a gap in between those two balls. The BGC is a tad earlier due to its dull cover and softer on the back whereas the SS is cleaner and more angular. Those two balls handle about similar amounts of oil as well. What would happen if the surface preps were similar; say 4000 with no polish?

charlest wrote on 1/30/2012 9:01 AM:
Not sure about the Slingshot.

Mine fits below the BG Centaur whether the BGC is at the stock surface or even 4000 grit.

I'd say we should know what the surface and drilling is for the Ogre SS and the BG Centaur first. I can't fit anything between my Ogre SS and my BG Centaur. Plus their ball paths are very different even if both are not snappy.

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PowrKoil17 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2012, 02:57:50 PM »

The SS is a pin up (Pin 2-3") drilling stacked over ring, the surface probably at 1500 polish. The BG Centaur is (Pin 2")pin right of ring about an inch with CG towards the grip, the surface is probably OOB with some slight polish.

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Edited by PowrKoil17 on 1/30/2012 at 3:59 PM

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2012, 03:11:26 PM »

If you took the BGC up to 2000 or 4000 with that layout, it would roll pretty similar to a Slingshot. Have you thought about adjusting the surfaces of the BGC and/or SS at all?

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PowrKoil17 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2012, 03:22:48 PM »

I like the BGC where it is at, I have considered changing the surface of the SS to try and make it smoother, but can this ball be smoothed out?

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charlest · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2012, 03:27:00 PM »

If that surface is the Ogre SS stock surface, you can make it slightly earlier and handle slightly more oil by either sanding to P1000 grit and repolishing lightly OR sanding it to P4000 grit (first use P2000 grit) and leaving it matte.

PowrKoil17 wrote on 1/30/2012 4:22 PM:I like the BGC where it is at, I have considered changing the surface of the SS to try and make it smoother, but can this ball be smoothed out?

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PowrKoil17 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 07, 2012, 07:48:17 AM »

Would any of these weak pearls fit well between BG Centaur and Ogre SS? Ebonite Tornado, AMF Orbit(not Xtremes), Columbia Scout? I see these balls brand new and dirt cheap on Ebay all the time. Just hate the thought of altering the surface of the SS. Don't want to take the SS out of the Ogre! LOL!

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Edited by PowrKoil17 on 2/7/2012 at 8:49 AM

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 07, 2012, 08:52:05 AM »

If you want smooth, you can take just about anything and put the pin 2 inches from your axis to achieve that. Compared to the Ogre SS, what are you looking for? Something with more length but not as jumpy? If so, a Tornado is perfect for that. I drilled one myself and even with a small weight hole at P4, it has a pretty controllable backend simply because the core is weak. I left mine at OOB surface.

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Edited by TWOHAND834 on 2/7/2012 at 9:56 AM

PowrKoil17 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 07, 2012, 09:26:53 AM »

Yes, long and smooth. Something with just a little more drive off of the dry than the BG Centaur. I watched an Ebonite 2010 lineup video on youtube and really liked what I saw from the Tornado. So I started looking into the lower Diff pearls with weaker cores that were slightly stronger than the Slingshot, and that's how I came up with the few I listed. I think the core in the Avalanche series makes them a little stronger than what I want. Thanks for the info on the Tornado. Your comments backup what I saw in the video.

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