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Zach M

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Coverstock on Brunswick
« on: July 17, 2007, 05:07:52 PM »
Are the Total Inferno and Red Zone both solid reactive?  Does Brunswick make only solid reactive?  Just getting into different types of coverstock and had a question.  Thanks for all responces,

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BrunsWolf

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Re: Coverstock on Brunswick
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2007, 01:16:14 AM »
The Total is a solid reactive with Octane Gription and the Red Zone is a hybrid with an Activator based cover.

Brunswick makes every type of cover out there:
High-load particle: Mammoth
Low-load particle/pearl: Sidewinder
Solid reactive: Fury, Total, Wizard ...
Pearl reactive: Rampage, Radical, Fury Pearl

Since most solid reactives are favored by all/most styles of bowlers, they must be frontrunner of equipment for a company.
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Re: Coverstock on Brunswick
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2007, 02:15:22 AM »
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The Total is a solid reactive with Octane Gription and the Red Zone is a hybrid with an Activator based cover.


Sorry to burst your bubble: the TI is pearl reactive, the RZ a solid reactive.
The Blast Zone has a so-called hybrid cover, half pearl, half sold, but also simple Activator.
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Re: Coverstock on Brunswick
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2007, 10:53:02 AM »
Dizzy is correct.  When all else fails, look at the link to your left that says "Brunswick", then look for your ball and read the description...


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BrunsWolf

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Re: Coverstock on Brunswick
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2007, 04:09:48 PM »
my bad guys. i would have sworn that the TI was solid. Zach, please forgive me for my misunderstanding
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Re: Coverstock on Brunswick
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2007, 10:11:54 PM »
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If you have a Red Zone and a Strike Zone at the same surface, you will not get the same reaction.
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What would the difference in reaction be?
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BrunsBob

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Re: Coverstock on Brunswick
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2007, 12:05:21 AM »
Colors can have effects on performance.

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Re: Coverstock on Brunswick
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2007, 12:18:08 AM »
Do colors effect reaction more then the Cg...

I probably shouldn't have said that
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Re: Coverstock on Brunswick
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2007, 10:04:38 AM »
For what it's worth, lighter dyes in color pours have been known for years to respond a little faster to friction.  I'm no chemist or physicist, but I'd assume some sort of molecular bond that lighter colors combined with resin cure in a different way.  

Remember the Pearl Ti-Messengers?  There was an original Black/Gold one and about 2 years later they released "The Same ball" in a light blue/silver/purple pearl combo.  The B/S/P was noticably more angular and seemed a bit sharper than the Black/Gold even though they were the same cover/core combo.  Columbia had to even adjust the length/hook ratings on them while they were in production to reflect the difference because they did not see them being so noticably different until they were already out on the market.

My guess is the same occurance in the Red Zones, combined with the Red Zones being poured in a new casting machine which makes for a more aggressive version of a Strike Zone at different finishes.  The Strike Zone polished is alot smoother and rollier than a polished Red Zone(you can really notice the difference with a high pin placement, Red Zone jerks off the spot ALOT harder).  And sanded at the same finish the Red Zone is noticably more aggressive in it's move.

I think it'd take a chemist to give us the exact explaination why this happens in colors, but that's also notable that when you see most oilers they are darker in color and most true skid-flip balls are brighter/lighter in color.  The companies already know this.


p.s.  I think it's also a shame that whenever a level of knowledge as high as Mr. Hamlin has posts something on these boards, it's hardly ever taken serious or is immediately criticized and or questioned in a negative manner.  Although the initial response wasn't negative, you can already see where this thread is heading.  It's hard to imagine why ball reps even keep willing to give you guys the information and knowledge that they have when every single thread on ball reviews eventually turns into a slapfest.

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Re: Coverstock on Brunswick
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2007, 10:15:12 AM »
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Re: Coverstock on Brunswick
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2007, 12:10:22 PM »
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With the color (only) being the determaining factor?


I thought maybe the determining factor was the factory polishing process on the red zone compared to the home spinner polishing process on the strike zone.

Maybe Brunswick tested factory polish on the strike zone and compared it to the factory polish on the red zone, and found there is still a difference, only in color.

Maybe Ric can confirm this?
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