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Title: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: Nicanor on April 26, 2010, 09:16:05 AM
Hopefully someone can help me find the drilling instructions.  I want to drill both and would like to use them as a 1-2 combination.  Was thinking about drilling the Seige pin under and Eviel Seige pin up but don't want a rolly drilling.

Thanks,

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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: kidlost2000 on April 27, 2010, 04:35:55 AM
bowlingball.com will have them or

http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/detail/retired-ball-archive/

Pick a retired ball with a asymmetric core. It is the same drillings you always get from Brunswick.
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Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: on April 27, 2010, 06:19:37 AM

If you don't want a rolly drilling then you'll probably want to go pin above, especially on the Siege. Good luck.


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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff

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The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: Brunswick_fan_BrandonH on April 27, 2010, 08:34:32 AM
If you go to the website http://www.bowlingball.com/info/brunswick-drilling-layout.html you can choose which ball you have to see what Brunswick recommends as a layout for what type of reaction you are looking for in that ball.
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Edited on 4/27/2010 8:35 AM
Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: DON DRAPER on April 27, 2010, 08:48:48 AM
Try this:

www.brunswickbowling.com/pro-shop-resources/drilling-layouts
Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: J_Mac on April 27, 2010, 09:11:25 AM
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Try this:

www.brunswickbowling.com/pro-shop-resources/drilling-layouts


That will only work if you have an account/log on for the Pro Shop Resources section...
Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: Nicanor on April 27, 2010, 09:19:30 AM
Thank you.

For those who read and have knowledge, does it make sense to drill both the Seige and Evil Seige the same?  Since one is a solid the other a pearl, will it be enough of a difference?

Thank you,

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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: dizzyfugu on April 27, 2010, 09:25:48 AM
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Try this:

www.brunswickbowling.com/pro-shop-resources/drilling-layouts


It is a shame that Brunswick does not supply the complete drilling sheets to the public anymore. Not the kind of customer service I'd expect. Boo!
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Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: Brunswick_fan_BrandonH on April 27, 2010, 09:35:31 AM
On the brunswick site, you can create an account by leaving the pro shop name blank.  Then, you will be able to access all of the layouts.
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Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: kidlost2000 on April 27, 2010, 09:55:25 AM
Figure they haven't got to posting the instructions some where easy like the archived balls.
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" men lie, women lie, numbers don't "
Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: Nicanor on April 27, 2010, 07:39:20 PM
CRD,

I did ask this before for the 3.5.  But I couldn't navigate to the drillings on Brunswick's website when I tried to get to them through the Seige.  My pro shop guy said he's really not a Brunswick person so I was hoping to get some feedback.

Thanks for the replies,

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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: kidlost2000 on April 27, 2010, 07:52:37 PM
Where they not in the box?

It is the same drill sheet they have used for some time now.
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" men lie, women lie, numbers don't "
Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: Nicanor on April 27, 2010, 08:44:28 PM
I now have a copy of the drill patterns, but part two of the question was how to drill them to compliment each other.


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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: RSalas on April 27, 2010, 09:07:04 PM
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I now have a copy of the drill patterns, but part two of the question was how to drill them to compliment each other.


FWIW, my Siege is drilled 60 by 5" by 70, and my Evil Siege is drilled 45 by 5" by 30.  I use the Siege on the fresh for flatter "tournament" type patterns or when I want to tame down over-under on house shots, then go to the Evil when the track opens up but I need the ball to be cleaner through the front part of the lane.
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Ray Salas
Brunswick Amateur Staff
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Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: themagician on April 28, 2010, 07:53:02 AM
Nicanor, does your driller not know the dual angle layouts? You seem to ask a lot of questions on layouts and such but never get that technical on them, i'm just curious.

Also the balls definitely have enough separation if you drill them the same, the one thing to note though is the Siege will roll very early unless you really do something wild with the layout, its not an ideal house shot ball in its box finish.
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Title: Re: Where can I find the drilling instructions for thr Seige and Eviel Seige
Post by: Nicanor on April 28, 2010, 08:39:06 AM
Thank you Ray and Mike.  

The pro shop owner/operator is familiar with dual angle layouts, but he doesn''t get very many requests for Brunswick in his area.  Its probably not difficult to mark out dual angle drillings, but it helps to have a really good idea of the ball your drilling.  I have more respect for the pro shop operator that says I''m not to familiar with this bowling ball, so lets get some input before we drill it.  I''m hoping to drill them as a good 1-2 combination so drilling the Seige pin low might not be a good idea and drilling the Evil Seige pin too high might not be a good idea but putting the pin over the bridge and putting the mb about 1 1/2 inches right of my thumb might work.  That pin distance is about 5 inches from my pap.


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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)

Edited on 4/28/2010 8:40 AM