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Myser

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Ambush vs Pyro
« on: March 31, 2006, 04:19:25 PM »

Just wondering if there is a big enough diff between the BVP Ambush (which i have and love) and a storm Pyro to warent getting the Pryo?

Bonus question

is there a big enough diff between the Pyro and the fired up...?
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Re: Ambush vs Pyro
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2006, 08:11:49 AM »
Yeah, there's a huge difference.  The Pyro sucks and the Ambush doesn't, lol.  And yes, the Fired Up sucked, and the Pyro sucks, so I'd say they're pretty similar . .
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Re: Ambush vs Pyro
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2006, 01:36:23 PM »
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Yeah, there's a huge difference.  The Pyro sucks and the Ambush doesn't, lol.  And yes, the Fired Up sucked, and the Pyro sucks, so I'd say they're pretty similar . .


A little biased don't ya think?
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Re: Ambush vs Pyro
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2006, 03:52:39 PM »
All I used to throw for years was Storm, and through about 15 balls here in the last couple years, I've come to the conclusion that Storm equipment sucks . .  I'd rather drill a Brunswick ball and at least know what it's going to do.  Plus, in the month since I've switched to Brunswick stuff, I've had two honor scores, my high sanctioned set, AND finally a solid lineup.  I was beginning to think I was an incompetent driller, so either Brunswick stuff is just magical, or I really do have a clue, and Brunswick stuff reacts correctly.
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Re: Ambush vs Pyro
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2006, 03:53:29 PM »
I do have to agree that particle pearls are excellent sport shot balls . .
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Re: Ambush vs Pyro
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2006, 04:14:52 PM »
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Yeah, there's a huge difference.  The Pyro sucks and the Ambush doesn't, lol.  And yes, the Fired Up sucked, and the Pyro sucks, so I'd say they're pretty similar . .
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You know you shouldn't "black and white" everything. Just because you couldn't get them to work for you (your drilling, for your release, for your oil pattern) doesn't mean they couldn't work great fo rmany other people.

A friend of mine, 220-230 avg on many house conditions and not too shabby in tournaments, BTM, BJI and Nationals, just got the Pyro to work great for him, replacing his original X-Factor.

Just please be cautious in your all-too-ready condemnations without provisos.

Keep in mind that I am not a Storm fan, but they work for many people.

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Re: Ambush vs Pyro
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2006, 04:30:53 PM »
Ryan,

Maybe that's exactly what he wanted to hear.
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Re: Ambush vs Pyro
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2006, 04:59:46 PM »
2 head-boy,

If it was a joke, he should have  put a smiley face on it, but I think he was serious as he has had better luck with Brunswick RECENTLY than with Storm.

The rest of you,

Decide if you're serious or not, then let me know.

RotoRPS,

I think you're right.


And here I thought we were out to help one another and all it was was another high school prank. Children, play nice now.
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HamPster

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Re: Ambush vs Pyro
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2006, 08:40:54 PM »
Actually I'm not throwing a Hybrid anymore, I haven't updated my profile in a while.  I should, upon a recent examination, it sounds pretty gay.  That's basically what I was getting at, was that Storm just doesn't work for me anymore.  He wanted opinions, and that is my personal opinion.  Don't see how it's any different from any other person's opinions.  I've had a lot of experience drilling Storm stuff for myself and others, and I've found there are very few people around this area that Storm actually consistently works for.  Just passing along my findings in a very biased and antagonistic way . . we like stirring things up a bit on this site, don't we?
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Re: Ambush vs Pyro
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2006, 12:07:31 AM »
I throw BOTH Storm and Brunswick almost exclusively. I average 223 between 3 leagues (2 scratch and 1 handicapped). In the past 12 months I have a 300/800 with Storm (Super Charge) and a 300 with Brunswick (Ambush). I also won an ABT Masters Title last Spring throwing Storm equipment. Just recently (past 3 months) I invested in some Brunswick equipment based on my experiemce with a used Danger Zone (can't say enough good things about that ball. Threw 6-700's in a row and 9 of 11) AND JUST ORDERED A STORM PYRO ON THURSDAY.

Personally, I find that these two companies equipment complement each other quite well. They fill in the niches where one or the other company hasn't quite got it right yet. As a random example: when my Vapor Zone is overreacting I pull out the Super Charge (have it drilled for an aggressive but arcing midlane move), when the SC starts coming up early then it's either the Rampage, Ambush or Atomic Charge.

Here's my Brunswick inventory:

Strike Zone
Danger Zone x2 (one leverage--one pin above ring)
Vapor Zone x2 (one pin up--one pin down)
Rampage x 2
Ambush x 2 (one oob--one dulled w/green SB)
Smokin' Inferno
Impulse Zone
Strike Zone (green pin)
Strike Zone (Red Pin)
Nemesis
Shock Zone
Intense Inferno (retired)
Raging Inferno (retired)
Blazing Inferno (retired)

Yes, this is severe overkill and it drives me nuts when I have to pick out what to take to tournaments. I'm a ball junkie...what else can i say...LOL.

Toasted lanes:

Track Desert Heat
Visionary Blue Slate Gargoyle


My Storm stuff is too numerous to mention. You name I got it up to when the Fire and Paradigm series came out.

I was wondering also if the Pyro might mimic the Ambush, but from what I glean on the boards it has a much more aggressive move in the back end.

My point is: both The Big "B" and Storm are great ball manufacturers. For me, I match up well with both of them. It's unfair to bash Storm just because: 1) You've never thrown their stuff, or, 2) You didn't match up well with it.

These companies invest mucho $$$$ in R&D. They both know what they're doing. Brunswick has had their share of duds as has Storm and lets not even mention Columbia's EPX. But overall, there are very, very few Storm balls that I threw that I didn't like...same for the Big "B". In fact, the technology is so good now that every major manufacturer makes great stuff.

Just my two cents.



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Re: Ambush vs Pyro
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2006, 12:12:47 AM »
oops...I meant RED Pin ZONE CLASSIC and GREEN PIN ZONE CLASSIC...not Strike Zone.

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Re: Ambush vs Pyro
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2006, 04:08:06 PM »
I have seen the Pyro and the Ambush thrown on the same type of conditions with the same layout. The Ambush is much more even in reaction and the pyro has a bit of mid lane with a BIG back end reaction! I would probally compare the Pyro more to the Vapor zone than the Ambush! The drilling was pin over bridge and the CG kicked out right.

If the Ambush and the Vapor zone had kids, the Kids would be the pyro IMO. I would say the Pyro is 60% Vapor zone and 40% ambush (maybe 70/30?).

Edited on 4/2/2006 4:31 PM