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thedjs

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Balance hole for more flair
« on: June 27, 2007, 04:17:45 AM »
According to Brunsnick, a balance hole placed on line and about 2 1/4" from the pap will increase flair.  Will this have a great effect on overall hook?  What size should the hole be?

I want to try this on an Absolute which is drilled with the pin just right of the ring finger and about 3 3/8" from my pap.  I am having a problem getting this ball to turn-over on the backend even though I have tried several different surface adjustments.  I am using it on a medium oil pattern. My only other option is to have it redrilled.

Would really appreciate some advice before I have any work done.

 

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Re: Balance hole for more flair
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2007, 06:16:34 PM »
If your PAP measurement is accurate, and the pin is 3-3/8" from your axis, then, no, a flare-increasing-hole will not have "a great effect on overall hook." 3-3/8" is at the limit of the track flare effect. You should be getting about 3/8" separation between flare rings. A flare-increasing-hole MAY increase the distance between flare rings for you (visibly), but you will most likely not see any measurable gain in hook potential.

What sort of surface adjustments have you made? If you're lowering the grit, it's possible that it's burning up. On the other end, Activator+ can be really touchy when polished (a la Intense Inferno).

The first thing I'd do, though, is double check your axis measurement. If that was off an inch or so either way, then you might have more options with the X-hole. But, for sure, tell us what surfaces you've tried. We might can offer something you haven't tried yet.
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Re: Balance hole for more flair
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2007, 07:46:41 AM »
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3-3/8" is at the limit of the track flare effect. You should be getting about 3/8" separation between flare rings. A flare-increasing-hole MAY increase the distance between flare rings for you (visibly), but you will most likely not see any measurable gain in hook potential.


Second that. With this layout, the core is already at its max potential, and with a balance hole you only do some fine-tuning to the static weights of the ball. You might change a little (relative) top weight, but this will only result in an earlier or later hook reaction. Effectively you just change the break point location on the lane a little, only a little will be won. With a flare-increasing hole, you might even lose energy at the pins since the core will start to move into a stable postion even a tad earlier, bellying the shot but the ball might not cover more boards.

If the ball does not hook on mediums, I'd rather think it might burn up and lose its energy before it enters the back end?
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Re: Balance hole for more flair
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2007, 08:28:56 AM »
What you want is a balance hole for more backend reaction it sounds like!

A hole 2 1/4 past the VAL on the fingers pap line will probably do it!

BUT as stated above...that ball is working hard already to flare all the way down the lane...early, midlane and back!  IF there is not enough oil coverage it may be spent by the back if trying to flare in a lot of dry.

Weightholes past 6 3/4 inches from your grip center line are on the bottom of the ball and raise top weight giving you some delay in reaction.  That MIGHT do it!  Might not.  Note because of your close pap(I'm guessing less than 4??? a guess) your weighthole 2 1/4 past val may still be on top of ball and lower top weight...I don't know.

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Re: Balance hole for more flair
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2007, 07:58:03 PM »
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According to Brunsnick, a balance hole placed on line and about 2 1/4" from the pap will increase flair.  Will this have a great effect on overall hook?  What size should the hole be?

I want to try this on an Absolute which is drilled with the pin just right of the ring finger and about 3 3/8" from my pap.  I am having a problem getting this ball to turn-over on the backend even though I have tried several different surface adjustments.  I am using it on a medium oil pattern. My only other option is to have it redrilled.

Would really appreciate some advice before I have any work done.


I wonder if your Absolute is not already hooking too much and too early. Maybe you need either a flare reducing hole or a VERY light polish to get the ball to retain energy for the backend. If it's not finishing, it may have used up its energy too early in the midlane.

YOu say you've tried some surface changes. Could you have gone too far? Maybe a light hand polish was all you needed??

Activator coverstocks don't seem to need a lot of surface change to get some reaction changes.
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Re: Balance hole for more flair
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2007, 08:23:01 PM »
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God, please spell it correctly...bowling balls have "flare" rings. The Nature Boy has "flair".

One of my pet peeves, sorry.


  THB,

  Maybe he just wants the ball to go down the lane with some pizazz (lol).

  On a serious note, go to youtube and search for Brunsnick.  You should find one of his videos that has to do with flair increasing holes vs flair reducing holes.  You can see the difference for yourself.


P.S. He also does a non hole vs a flair increasing hole in his mammoth vid. You might check that one out also.
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Re: Balance hole for more flair
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2007, 06:43:22 AM »
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God, please spell it correctly...bowling balls have "flare" rings. The Nature Boy has "flair".


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