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hotwire13

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cheetah = THS???
« on: January 16, 2005, 04:03:48 AM »
did anyone see parkers second shot in the 10th?, when he played straight up 15 with his strike shot, same revs and speed, and it held all the way down and flushed the pocket?  isnt the pattern supposed to be fairly flat, with the exception of dry outsides that is what promotes the high scoring?  i wonder if they played further in if the ball would hold, as even the righties looked to have 3-4 boards of room inside as well as out.
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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2005, 12:06:29 PM »
Yes, cheetah is the PBA version of a house shot.  Why do you think Robert smith does well on this pattern?

And why is this in the brunswick forum?
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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2005, 12:44:11 PM »
everyone today was missing and it was either holding or coming back from the channel...so....even though I'm a TOTAL house hack.....I could score decently on this pattern......it was like a bumper shot!

Even the description on the pattern from Randy......he said right there that there was a ton of friction on the outsides........

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hotwire13

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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2005, 12:44:51 PM »
i thought i put it in the pba forum...sorry.  

as for parkers second shot in the 10th of his first game, his first ball went straight up 15 and held into the pocket.  when you look at the pattern layout, while the outsides make it easy, the inner part of the lane is still supposed to be fairly flat, and it makes me wonder just how flat those lanes were today.  you shouldnt be able to play 12 boards further in with the same ball, speed, and revs, and have it end up in the same place on a PBA shot...regardless of how easy the outsides make it.
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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2005, 01:19:29 PM »
Erik,

We didn't see the whole shot. Parker can throw it VERY hard and very fast. I doubt it he turned it at all. The outside was dry but the inside is not; it's not flooded. Like with most PBA patterns, there are tons of variability, depending on how difficult they actually want to make it AND depending on what lane surface they are using.

FYI ever see Duke throw a fill shot where the count doesn't matter?
He throws a backup ball from the left: his spare spare shot.
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hotwire13

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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2005, 05:29:53 PM »
i dont know about anyone else, but i saw the shot from about 40 feet on to the pin deck, and the speed and revs looked pretty similar to what he threw on the outside...i was just a little surprised to see such an inside shot hold that much on such a short pattern.
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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2005, 10:27:15 PM »
no, cheetah is not your typical house shot..  they play the outside because the middles are dry. funny to see some people judge a pattern when they've never even bowled on it.
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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2005, 10:29:26 PM »
Hmm, well pizz is right.  But as far as the patterns go, it is the easiest PBA pattern out there, as we saw by the telephone numbers this week.  It's not a THS in reality, but it's the closest you'll ever see for a PBA pattern.
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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2005, 10:40:27 PM »
http://www.pba.com/laneconditions/default.asp?ID=7

look at the condition, at 35 feet the ball is gonna hook.. 1 board hook, 5 board hook, 10 15 20 it all hooks as soon as it hits 35 feet. thats why most everyone who scores well plays outside of 10.
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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2005, 10:51:26 PM »
I think PBA wants high scores to try and attract more people to bowling. Like a person thats not into bowling and thought it was stupid, if they saw pros bowling 180-200 on a hard shot they would think  "these people r pros?"

Thats assuming they know the high score is 300
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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2005, 11:12:05 PM »
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Yes, cheetah is the PBA version of a house shot.  Why do you think Robert smith does well on this pattern?

And why is this in the brunswick forum?
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So you're saying that Robert can't bowl on anything other than a PBA version of a house shot? Sounds like you're a bit mis-informed. Try bowling on E pattern before making a dumb comment like that.
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hotwire13

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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2005, 11:18:21 PM »
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http://www.pba.com/laneconditions/default.asp?ID=7

look at the condition, at 35 feet the ball is gonna hook.. 1 board hook, 5 board hook, 10 15 20 it all hooks as soon as it hits 35 feet. thats why most everyone who scores well plays outside of 10.
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i was only making a statement to say that his shot looked like it had a reaction that most of us would see on a THS if we moved inside after playing the dry boards outside...i know what i saw, and if the ball is supposed to grab at 35 feet(which i do know is supposed to happen), then how the heck do you explain his ball flushing the pocket going straight up 15 when he played the gutter the entire day with the same ball?  ive bowled on flat shots(like the US Open) before FYI, so telling me all about pattern E isnt answering my question.  if the insides are so dry, then why didnt the ball cross?
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hotwire13

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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2005, 11:32:20 PM »
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Like I said the first time, he threw a fill shot, hard and straight you 15, he just walked up there and threw the ball.
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when you say he "just threw" the ball, it could also mean that you just saw him throw it.  i didnt know that meant he threw it harder.  charlest mentioned this as well, so i will take your words and correct myself.  

funny how a regional bowler like the pizz needs to make an unnecessary comment to get his point accross.  at least most others understood what i was trying to say.
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hotwire13

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Re: cheetah = THS???
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2005, 11:41:28 PM »
not a problem...i actually thought you meant that my TV was faster than yours in receiving the broadcast, and you were surprised at how quickly i posted it.
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