Author Topic: WHOA!!! must get oil off of Raging Inferno.. (Cleaning) (Read 6435 times)

Not done · « **on:** March 15, 2004, 09:02:12 PM »

Ok... I just got my Raging Inferno. The first 4 games I bowled with it, It was reacting awesome! But now, after about 15 games, I have found that it absorbs every drop of oil it touches and I need a way to clean it quickly, and to drain the oil out of it. It no longer reacts like I want it to... Strongly.

So, I would like to know what meathods you use on your particle ball's to help them react well and stay reacting well. Ex. Cleaning after, befor, during, and on what lanes, synthetic and wood. I bowl on both.

HELP!!!

Edited on 3/16/2004 1:14 PM

Strider · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2004, 07:03:13 AM »

Unless Brunswick was misquoted in BTM, they recommend heat to remove oil from the coverstock. If your ball was damaged by using their process, they should replace it. I'm mostly repeating what I read here. A great majority of people who take the time to post have had good success with heat. Most of the people with problems tried extreme measures. LuckyLefty Sldge Hammer Soufle' anyone?

I know some people don't like heat because a new ball never exposed to oil will sweat material out. It might be plasticizer, but that's only a guess. A new ball shouldn't have an excess of plasticizer to be removed. Ebonite says it's the beating a ball's track takes that makes the plasticizer migrate there.

I don't buy a lot of high end equipment, so maybe I don't witness ball death as much as others. Loss of reaction is usually noticed more with the megahookers, sometimes with very snappy equipment. I've soaked 2 balls in hot water + Dawn, had one rejuvinated, and had one run through Hook Again.

I know Steven tracks all games put on his equipment and is a big time maintenance guy. If any of us outside of the industry knows coverstock cleaning, it's him. I wouldn't doubt covers get a little more brittle with each heat treatment. However, if a ball is near death, you are not taking a big chance at getting back a big chunk of performance. No matter what Brunswick says, I don't think balls should be heated on a regular basis, only when nothing else seems to work. Also, how many regular bowlers leave their equipment in a hot trunk on a regular basis? Maybe ball death and brittle coverstocks have more to do with long term abuse than an occassional heat treatment? I don't know. My equipment is only left in the trunk a few times a year due to an odd work schedule.

Greg T, how can you say that the dishwasher is the safest way to use heat? What do you base this on?
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kendog · « **Reply #17 on:** March 18, 2004, 10:14:12 AM »

I've really had great experience with Elixir over the past seasons. At first, I found that, for me, the Elixir had the net effect of adding a good polish to the factory finish. After my initial trial, I scuffed with scotchbright or wetsanded everything I put the elixir on. Now using this method, I get right back to out of box reaction, AND I get that great benefit of NEVER letting that oil in. I use orange oil scrub/wipes after most every set, and that's about it. My stuff stays looking and reacting like new for going on two seasons. I look at my stuff compared to almost everyone else around, the colors are brighter, and I get the squeaky clean feel on that coverstock every time you pull it out. That's my two cents.
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Steven · « **Reply #18 on:** March 18, 2004, 01:11:50 PM »

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Unless Brunswick was misquoted in BTM, they recommend heat to remove oil from the coverstock.

Strider: Brunswick was not misquoted. They did in fact recommend dry heat as a method for rejuvenation.

Again, I can only relay what I've experienced personally. Baking a ball in most cases will give some initial life back to reaction. Not all balls react equally well to heat, but in most cases, you will see some initial benefit. The problem is with heating the same ball multiple times. With each successive treatment, the results last for a shorter period of time, and the cover develops a greater chance of developing problems -- i.e. cracking. Smoking and drugs usually take a little time to catch up with you, but these habits eventually do you in. Baking balls is a similar experience. Brunswick would have had to spend considerable time and effort to track multiple balls with multiple bakes over time to track longer term effects. I really doubt that they did this.

You're correct that if a ball appears to be "dead", then what do you have to lose? Unfortunately, most bowlers do not really know when their equipment is losing reaction. I've seen many (too many) cases where a bowler tries to throw his particle on second shift burnt conditions, the ball rolls out (duh), and it's consequently pronounced dead. They've read that Brunswick says to throw the ball into an oven, so without knowing it, they've put the ball on a path to premature death.

It all comes down to common sense. If something seems too good to be true, it usually is, regardless of who pronounces it.

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Not done · « **Reply #19 on:** March 18, 2004, 02:54:33 PM »

.... ok, all I do now is wipe of my ball every shot, and when I get home I wipe it off with a damp room temperature cloth with a little bit of sunlight on it then rinse and dry with a towel....

I never knew so many people take cleaning their balls more serious than actual bowling. Or at least it would seem that way.
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7 - 10, eh?
looks like a job for the reset button....

*presses reset button*
*random ball flies down the lane*
*ball hits 10 pin*
*ball explodes*

I knew it was too good to be true....

Steven · « **Reply #20 on:** March 18, 2004, 03:50:37 PM »

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I'm sorry but I'm surprised nobody, especially Steven, spoke to this comment.

Leftside: LOL! I saw the post, and my instinct said to pounce, but I'm tired of trying to save bowlers from themselves. There is enough good information here (from several posters) for anyone with an ounce of motivation to pick up and run with. But why give up on old wives tales for maintaining equipment?

Hair blow dryers, acetone and alcohol? Go for it!
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ZelvinDGreat · « **Reply #21 on:** March 19, 2004, 11:50:43 AM »

Is it TRUE Brunswick is saying goodbye to this ball?

Not done · « **Reply #22 on:** March 19, 2004, 11:52:29 AM »

not that I know of, only the Blazing I thought....

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ZelvinDGreat · « **Reply #23 on:** March 23, 2004, 02:45:56 PM »

Is the RI anygood.................really!
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Borincano · « **Reply #24 on:** March 24, 2004, 08:29:38 PM »

Bad of mine to mention Acetone. I use it diluted with alcohol(2 to 1) once a month not every time. Bowling balls should be wiped everytime you are using them and then use an approved cleaner to clean them after league play. Oil saturation won't occur. It's the same as when nature calls you wipe everytime unless...........

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Just use a hair blow dryer and a mixture of acetone and alcohol to wipe off the oil that seeps out. Then use the Doc elixir. Then is your responsibility to wipe the ball every time you throw the ball.

You take care of your ball and the ball will take care of you.

I'm sorry but I'm surprised nobody, especially Steven, spoke to this comment.

Borincano,

When are you doing this??? Are you speaking to baking the equipment or regular maintenance? You do realize the importance of truly cleaning your equipment after every thrown set correct?
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"Another Day Another Ditch"

Doc Hollywood · « **Reply #25 on:** March 24, 2004, 09:01:55 PM »

As the saying goes an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Protewcting your investment beforehand is the way to go and avoid all of these problems. The Elixir will help in that department along with routinely wiping the ball down and cleaning on a regular basis.

Overall the hot water soak in Dawn is still by far the best way to keep the ball deep cleaned.
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