I have both the Meanstreak Beatdown and Blue Ringer. The Meanstreak Beatdown is drilled pin in ring, CG in grip center, surface is at 500/2000 Abralon. The Blue Ringer is drilled pin in ring, CG in grip center with a Motion hole, and the surface is at 3000/4000 Abralon. The Blue Ringer is the perfect step down from the Meanstreak Beatdown. I get length with a nice controlled backend with continuation through the pins.