Post by: Supermo on March 24, 2010, 10:59:19 PM
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Post by: TWOHAND834 on March 25, 2010, 07:28:10 AM
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If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!
Post by: on March 25, 2010, 11:27:45 AM
I agree with TWOHAND834. Most bowlers will be happier with strong layouts with any ball that has the Torsion Asymmetrical core.
The cover on this ball is great, too. I use my Wild Thing (same cover) all the time.
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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
www.brunswickbowling.com
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Post by: headwest on March 25, 2010, 03:00:12 PM
Post by: J_w73 on March 25, 2010, 03:09:41 PM
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I have mine drilled with the pin below and between the fingers and the cg about a inch below my thumb. After watching this ball do absolutely nothing, I decided to go with the double thumb hole extra hole. This ball is still weak but works very well when I need something weaker but smooth off the spot. Works really well on the Cheetah pattern when it''s fresh. Wouldn''t reccomend this ball and layout for THS''s but it works well when you need something different.
Edited on 3/25/2010 3:07 PM
How does this ball compare to the rattler ??
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
Post by: RSalas on March 25, 2010, 03:14:50 PM
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I won a Wild Ride in a raffle with a 4/half in pin. Looking at the drill sheet and being a high tracker/stroker normally play around 8/10 board down and in i was thinking of going with pin above and CG out an inch or so. What kind of reaction would i get with this setup.
Maybe you should turn that question around a bit...what kind of reaction are you looking to get out of this ball? That is, where do you want to fit it in your arsenal? That would give us a better idea of where to start with layouts.
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How does this ball compare to the rattler ??
They're both blue.
For me, the Wild Ride is more even front-to-back. The Rattler is cleaner through the front and has a more defined shape at the break.
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Ray Salas
Brunswick Amateur Staff
http://www.brunswickbowling.com
Post by: Supermo on March 25, 2010, 04:10:07 PM
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Hit em thin watch em Spin
If your Dog thinks you are the Best , Do not ASK FOR A SECOND OPINION !
Post by: TWOHAND834 on March 25, 2010, 05:54:45 PM
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Thanks for your time and replies, most of my balls are drilled pin above ring and to the right with the Cg down and to the left about half inch. Looking at the drill sheet for this for a high tracker it looks same pin but the Cg is down and about inch or so to the right. Never tried this one before and with not having a lot of hand i normally play down and in so wondered what type of reaction i would get with this drilling on a medium oil.
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Hit em thin watch em Spin
If your Dog thinks you are the Best , Do not ASK FOR A SECOND OPINION !
If you want ANY reaction, you need to drill it strong. I am telling you from a pro shop point of view, if you drill it weak, the ball WILL NOT hook unless you are bowling on a really short pattern or have 12-14 mph ball speed. In order to get the ball to rev up in the midlane and have good continuation through the pins, drill this pin in the 4 inch area and swing that cg right and put a weight hole DOWN to get the ball flaring ESPECIALLY on medium oil. If you were to try a skid/flippy type of drilling, you will get ALOT of skid and not much flip. Trust me.
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If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!
Post by: J_w73 on March 25, 2010, 06:12:23 PM
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Thanks for your time and replies, most of my balls are drilled pin above ring and to the right with the Cg down and to the left about half inch. Looking at the drill sheet for this for a high tracker it looks same pin but the Cg is down and about inch or so to the right. Never tried this one before and with not having a lot of hand i normally play down and in so wondered what type of reaction i would get with this drilling on a medium oil.
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Hit em thin watch em Spin
If your Dog thinks you are the Best , Do not ASK FOR A SECOND OPINION !
If you want ANY reaction, you need to drill it strong. I am telling you from a pro shop point of view, if you drill it weak, the ball WILL NOT hook unless you are bowling on a really short pattern or have 12-14 mph ball speed. In order to get the ball to rev up in the midlane and have good continuation through the pins, drill this pin in the 4 inch area and swing that cg right and put a weight hole DOWN to get the ball flaring ESPECIALLY on medium oil. If you were to try a skid/flippy type of drilling, you will get ALOT of skid and not much flip. Trust me.
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If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!
Is this because of the core or because of the cover..??
I have heard the wild card connexion solid coverstock is pretty strong and will handle a ton of oil.
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
Post by: Supermo on March 25, 2010, 06:13:01 PM
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Hit em thin watch em Spin
If your Dog thinks you are the Best , Do not ASK FOR A SECOND OPINION !
Post by: TWOHAND834 on March 26, 2010, 07:59:44 AM
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Thanks for your time and replies, most of my balls are drilled pin above ring and to the right with the Cg down and to the left about half inch. Looking at the drill sheet for this for a high tracker it looks same pin but the Cg is down and about inch or so to the right. Never tried this one before and with not having a lot of hand i normally play down and in so wondered what type of reaction i would get with this drilling on a medium oil.
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Hit em thin watch em Spin
If your Dog thinks you are the Best , Do not ASK FOR A SECOND OPINION !
If you want ANY reaction, you need to drill it strong. I am telling you from a pro shop point of view, if you drill it weak, the ball WILL NOT hook unless you are bowling on a really short pattern or have 12-14 mph ball speed. In order to get the ball to rev up in the midlane and have good continuation through the pins, drill this pin in the 4 inch area and swing that cg right and put a weight hole DOWN to get the ball flaring ESPECIALLY on medium oil. If you were to try a skid/flippy type of drilling, you will get ALOT of skid and not much flip. Trust me.
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If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!
Is this because of the core or because of the cover..??
I have heard the wild card connexion solid coverstock is pretty strong and will handle a ton of oil.
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
It is a little bit of both. While the Wild Card is a duller surface soild, the Wild Ride is a pearl with some Rough Buff added. By todays standards, the core is not the strongest in the world either. The diff is only .03 and that is if you leverage it. So, if you try to do a length drilling, you will only see maybe 2 inches of flare. The ball will "never get started". I asked Mo Pinel himself when he was doing a clinic and showing of the Craze, and he said if there is no midlane transition, the ball wont do very much. Midlane is key to ball motion and continuation.
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If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!
Post by: Jcom on March 26, 2010, 08:49:32 PM
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Jordan Harrison
Strike Zone Pro Shops
Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Post by: Supermo on March 29, 2010, 06:27:57 PM
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Hit em thin watch em Spin
If your Dog thinks you are the Best , Do not ASK FOR A SECOND OPINION !
Post by: qstick777 on March 29, 2010, 10:21:12 PM
How does it compare with the Swarm?
I'm thinking about moving up in weight, and I see they can both be had for great prices.
My center puts out a relatively short pattern (maybe 35 feet?), and I have slower ball speeds.
Would the Swarm and Wild Ride be 2 balls that would complement each other, or would they be similar? I can't find the Swarm on Brunswick's new site, so I don't have much information on it other than it's pearl PK18.
Post by: Supermo on March 30, 2010, 11:54:00 AM
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Hit em thin watch em Spin
If your Dog thinks you are the Best , Do not ASK FOR A SECOND OPINION !
Post by: TWOHAND834 on March 30, 2010, 12:03:31 PM
What is the distance from the pin to the cg? Reason, is that in order to do a flare incresing hole, you need to have the cg BELOW the center line and have a decent amount of thumb weight BEFORE you put the hole in it.
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If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!
Post by: Supermo on March 30, 2010, 05:49:45 PM
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Hit em thin watch em Spin
If your Dog thinks you are the Best , Do not ASK FOR A SECOND OPINION !