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leftyinsnellville

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Help with the Twisted Fury Solid
« on: June 18, 2009, 06:32:06 AM »
I bought this one with a 1 inch pin, but as it's an asymmetrical and really didn't want to go with a pin under drill, I ended up drilling it pin in ring, CG kicked out slightly and 50 degrees between pin to pap and pin to mb mark.

I haven't throw it yet, but was planning on taking it with me tonight to my PBA Experience League.  Here's my problem, they're laying out the Cheetah pattern tonight and as I know it's the shortest of the 5 patterns, would it be a waste to give the TFS one of the four spaces available in my bag?

Stated differently...I've never seen the Twisted Fury Solid in action, what would a low rev stroker expect from this ball on a Cheetah pattern?

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Re: Help with the Twisted Fury Solid
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2009, 02:39:40 PM »
Not knowing your game that well, I don't know how much I can really offer here, but I'll do what I can...

In my experience and observation, the Twisty Solid is more at home on tighter or flatter patterns, as that cover seems to be very sensitive to friction.  So if you'll be bowling on the "new" Cheetah with more volume outside, then you might have a fighting chance with it.  If it's the "old" Cheetah, though, I'd leave it home and save it for the other patterns.
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Re: Help with the Twisted Fury Solid
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2009, 02:41:48 PM »
The Brunswick houses here are doing their PBA Experience 2-ball challenge league with the Twisted Fury Solid and Smash Zone.  I'm not in the league, but I know a couple of friends of mine are.  Both mentioned that they preferred the TFS on the Cheetah, as it is smoother off of the end of the pattern.  Also, if I'm not mistaken, although the Cheetah is a short pattern, the volume of oil is higher than some of the others?

What is your PAP?  Just wondering how far the pin in the ring places it from your axis point.  I'm guessing it will be in the 4 to 4-1/2" vicinity.  I have read numerous posts in the Brunswick forum that the Twisted Fury should be drilled with a pin to axis distance about 1/2" less than you like on other cores, as it tends to get a lot of natural length.  Also, the surface of the ball is 1000 wet sand, which should help it get through the higher volume and smooth out the backend reaction.
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leftyinsnellville

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Re: Help with the Twisted Fury Solid
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2009, 02:48:36 PM »
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The Brunswick houses here are doing their PBA Experience 2-ball challenge league with the Twisted Fury Solid and Smash Zone.  I'm not in the league, but I know a couple of friends of mine are.  Both mentioned that they preferred the TFS on the Cheetah, as it is smoother off of the end of the pattern.  Also, if I'm not mistaken, although the Cheetah is a short pattern, the volume of oil is higher than some of the others?

What is your PAP?  Just wondering how far the pin in the ring places it from your axis point.  I'm guessing it will be in the 4 to 4-1/2" vicinity.  I have read numerous posts in the Brunswick forum that the Twisted Fury should be drilled with a pin to axis distance about 1/2" less than you like on other cores, as it tends to get a lot of natural length.  Also, the surface of the ball is 1000 wet sand, which should help it get through the higher volume and smooth out the backend reaction.
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You guessed right.  My pap is 4 7/8" over 1" up.  This puts the pin to pap pretty close to 4".  I have a Twisted Fury Pearl that I drilled pin up and pin to pap at 5" and I'm really happy with the smooth reaction on a THS and Viper pattern.  I'm hoping for a similar smooth reaction from the TWS, but maybe it will get into its roll a touch sooner with a bit more hook.
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Re: Help with the Twisted Fury Solid
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2009, 02:49:21 PM »
Here's my valid suggestion.... You have 1327 other bowling balls, leave the Twisted Solid for something else and another night.  However if you do for some reason decide to take it, I'd say expect to see 160's or lower with it on Cheetah.
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leftyinsnellville

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Re: Help with the Twisted Fury Solid
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2009, 03:10:08 PM »
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Here's my valid suggestion.... You have 1327 other bowling balls, leave the Twisted Solid for something else and another night.  However if you do for some reason decide to take it, I'd say expect to see 160's or lower with it on Cheetah.


That's a slight exaggeration.

I've never bowled on the Cheetah before, I guess I'll bring it and just leave it in the bag if it doesn't work out for me.  I tend to stick with one ball all night since I'm a lefty and usually nobody is dicking with my line.  I'll still have the Power Charge or Break Pearl to fall back on.

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Re: Help with the Twisted Fury Solid
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2009, 05:20:30 PM »
lefty,

With the Cheetah forcing most to play extreme outside, I'd try some polish on the Twisted Solid. That should work on either volume because by adding some shine the ball will still respond more quickly to the friction.

Having said that, I'd still advise using a pearl reactive over a solid on your first try at the Cheetah. The reason is to enable you to cross more boards late with less effort. You can experiment with the Twisted Solid later if you see too much over/under. I certainly don't have all the answers, but tend to agree with RSalas that the Twisted Solid is better suited for the other patterns.


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Re: Help with the Twisted Fury Solid
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2009, 07:27:50 PM »
One more observation on the Cheetah. When I say to play it outside, I mean straight up the outside.

The volume inside is quite heavy, so unless you can play straighter lines it will play like a much longer pattern in most cases. I haven't seen anyone who can swing the ball much on the Cheetah for that reason. Maybe after it starts to break down, but until that time...


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Re: Help with the Twisted Fury Solid
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2009, 09:19:05 PM »
Lefty,

You drilled it and you want to use it, I'll say use it, it's a PBAX, get some experience using your new toy and come back let us know what you think and share your experience.


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