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Title: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: xwenhan on May 27, 2005, 04:13:55 PM
I recently started sunning my Absolute because i found that it is a great oil sucker but i just heard from my fellow bowling friend that sunning the ball would kill the coverstock.Please help, Thanks
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on May 28, 2005, 12:26:41 AM
Yes, this is true.  It has been proven that if you use to high a heat source to make a ball "sweat", it can also sweat out the resin from the cover.  There are better methods to rejuvenating your bowling ball.  One is the Ebonite Hook Again and the other method is the CPR by Columbia 300.  If you do use a heat source, it must be a very light heat source, just hot enough to get the ball to sweat even though that method is still not advised.  Also, for future reference, wiping your ball down with rubbing alcohol after each bowling session greatly reduces the oil absorption by the ball thus keeping your ball performing at an optimum level over a longer period of time.
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Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: xwenhan on May 28, 2005, 12:54:16 AM
I have already been sunning the ball at about 48 degrees celcus(120 ferignheigt) for about a month, is the damage done or can i do something to bring my ball back to its original form ?
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: Bjaardker on May 28, 2005, 01:23:37 AM
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Yes, this is true.  It has been proven that if you use to high a heat source to make a ball "sweat", it can also sweat out the resin from the cover.  There are better methods to rejuvenating your bowling ball.  One is the Ebonite Hook Again and the other method is the CPR by Columbia 300.  If you do use a heat source, it must be a very light heat source, just hot enough to get the ball to sweat even though that method is still not advised.  Also, for future reference, wiping your ball down with rubbing alcohol after each bowling session greatly reduces the oil absorption by the ball thus keeping your ball performing at an optimum level over a longer period of time.
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Steven Vance
Atlanta (Buford), GA
Pro Shop Operator
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DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You asked this in the Brunswick forums, so Brunswick's response is what he should have given you.

Brunswick  says that rejuvenation by heat is not just ok, but they actually RECOMMEND having a ball rejuvenated by heat every 50-100 games depending on the coverstock.

Brunswick recommends that this be done in an oven specifically made for this known as a rejuvenator or revivor & done by a professional at your local pro shop.

However, those of us who don't want to spend the extra $$ every 50-100 games have realized that a controlled heating by a mild heat source like the sun is a good alternative.

Steven Vance, Maybe next time you should check with the manufacturer before you give incorrect advice.

And just so you all don't think I'm making this up, here is a link to a copy of the offical press release from Brunswick: http://www.utahbowling.com/news/brunswick.html

Ebonite, Storm & Columbia may have different conclusions, but again, this is in the BRUNSWICK forum.
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: RandyO on May 28, 2005, 02:34:38 AM
Yeah - but what about coverstock melanoma? Make sure you apply a liberal dose of at least SPF 21 sunblock each time you put that ball out in the hot sun. If you start seeing any new dark spots on the surface of the ball, or unusual growths on the ball, or the pin-carry starts getting spooky, contact a doctor immediately.
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: xwenhan on May 28, 2005, 05:52:37 AM
But today i noticed some funny purplish stuff on my CLEAN towel after i wiped it and sunned it.What is that?
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: xwenhan on May 28, 2005, 05:53:47 AM
sorry it was not stuff, it was some purple colouring
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: DON DRAPER on May 28, 2005, 08:52:06 AM
bjaardker is correct. brunswick recommends using the rejuvinator to extract oil from their bowling balls.
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on May 28, 2005, 02:34:55 PM
I would defintely try sunning your equipment, because mooning mine hasn't done crap...
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Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: azus on May 28, 2005, 03:09:01 PM
You can also put the ball in a sauna for 3-4hours.
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: BrunsBob on May 28, 2005, 07:18:21 PM
Man, do you guys know how hard it is for a smartazz like myself to hold his tongue when someone questions whether to sun their balls or not. I must remain professional and say listen to the Brunswick advice given on our website. Controlled heat is not harmful to Brunswick bowling balls.

RoB LAW
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Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: xwenhan on May 29, 2005, 02:18:02 AM
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If you go to our website, it explains how to maintain ball reaction. One is gently warming the bowling ball in a Rejuvenator or Revivor as well as resurfacing and either polishing or dulling.

IT DOES NOT REMOVE THE PLASTICIZERS in Brunswick bowling balls.
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What are plasticizers and what is the recommendede temperature of heating because the sun here in the afternoon in Singapore can be quite blazing.
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: dizzyfugu on May 30, 2005, 06:31:28 AM
Direct sunlight will destroy the coverstock. It's the ultra-violet light, which also gives you a sunbun and skin cancer in the long run.
What sunlightz can do to plastics can be seen on unpainted car bumbers - they will bleach and get brittle over time.

Do not expose your balls to what you wouldn't do to yourself... a tan is O.K., but not a hour-long grill in bright sun.
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Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: qstick777 on May 30, 2005, 12:08:20 PM
of course it will kill it!  Didn't  you read this (http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=87593&ForumID=2&CategoryID=2) post?
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: a_ak57 on May 30, 2005, 12:16:03 PM
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of course it will kill it!  Didn't  you read this (http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=87593&ForumID=2&CategoryID=2) post?

Apparently YOU didn't.  The guy said the ball was hot from the sun, then he put his AC on full blast, and THEN hit a bump and the ball jumped up and down.  And he said the ball already had a crack in it...  Two contrasting temperatures, a previous crack, and a bump made it crack, NOT because he let the ball get hot to sweat oil out.  It was his own fault... Sheesh....
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Edited on 5/30/2005 12:09 PM
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on May 30, 2005, 10:46:58 PM
Bjaardker,

I understand what you are saying and know that you are not making anything up.  However, if you read my post carefully, I stated that HIGH heat sources are not good for a ball.  I am not distinguishing between any ball companies in my post.  I said that there are better ways to rejuvenate a ball other than heat, which is true.  But if he used the heat source to use a light one and not just setting the ball out in the sun.  Believe me, I too use heat to help rejuvenate bowling balls, and it does work.  I guess I needed to do a better job at wording it so you were not thinking that I was totally against the heating method to rejuvenating bowling balls. In xwenhan's original post, he basically asked that if sunning a ball can hurt the cover and that answer is yes.  But, just out of curiosity, do you kow how hot the Rejuvenator gets when doing the baking process?  I read the link you gave us and did not see it.
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Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: qstick777 on May 30, 2005, 10:56:55 PM
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Apparently YOU didn't. The guy said the ball was hot from the sun, then he put his AC on full blast, and THEN hit a bump and the ball jumped up and down. And he said the ball already had a crack in it... Two contrasting temperatures, a previous crack, and a bump made it crack, NOT because he let the ball get hot to sweat oil out. It was his own fault... Sheesh....


I guess the sarcasm wasn't obvious ??  

Actually if you read the post the guy says he threw a practice game, put it in the front seat, and since it was hot he turned the A/C on max.  No where does it say that the ball was hot from the sun - it reads as if he left the lanes, put the ball in the front seat, started the car and turned on the A/C.

That must be some really cold A/C to play a part in that crack.
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: Bjaardker on May 30, 2005, 10:57:47 PM
quote:
Bjaardker,

I understand what you are saying and know that you are not making anything up.  However, if you read my post carefully, I stated that HIGH heat sources are not good for a ball.  I am not distinguishing between any ball companies in my post.  I said that there are better ways to rejuvenate a ball other than heat, which is true.  But if he used the heat source to use a light one and not just setting the ball out in the sun.  Believe me, I too use heat to help rejuvenate bowling balls, and it does work.  I guess I needed to do a better job at wording it so you were not thinking that I was totally against the heating method to rejuvenating bowling balls. In xwenhan's original post, he basically asked that if sunning a ball can hurt the cover and that answer is yes.  But, just out of curiosity, do you kow how hot the Rejuvenator gets when doing the baking process?  I read the link you gave us and did not see it.
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Steven Vance
Atlanta (Buford), GA
Pro Shop Operator
Advanced Bowling Solutions

If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!


The revivor oven at my pro shop runs between 130 & 135 degrees.
Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: a_ak57 on May 31, 2005, 02:30:31 PM
quote:
quote:
Apparently YOU didn't. The guy said the ball was hot from the sun, then he put his AC on full blast, and THEN hit a bump and the ball jumped up and down. And he said the ball already had a crack in it... Two contrasting temperatures, a previous crack, and a bump made it crack, NOT because he let the ball get hot to sweat oil out. It was his own fault... Sheesh....


I guess the sarcasm wasn't obvious ??  

Actually if you read the post the guy says he threw a practice game, put it in the front seat, and since it was hot he turned the A/C on max.  No where does it say that the ball was hot from the sun - it reads as if he left the lanes, put the ball in the front seat, started the car and turned on the A/C.

That must be some really cold A/C to play a part in that crack.


Actually he DID say that.  The following is from his post:

"So, hot day + sun on ball + A/C on max + small crack in finger hole + extreme old age = very large crack."

But either way, it doesn't really matter.
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- Andy


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Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: Mr Bass on May 31, 2005, 03:33:03 PM
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You can also put the ball in a sauna for 3-4hours.

Soaking in a bucket of hot water with detergent works for me
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Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on June 01, 2005, 12:30:05 AM
Thank you for the info Bjaardker.  I appreciate it.
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Steven Vance
Atlanta (Buford), GA
Pro Shop Operator
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Title: Re: Will sunning my ball kill it ?
Post by: Laybzz74 on June 01, 2005, 05:33:26 PM
I don't expose mine to direct sunlight ... I put mine in a large, black plastic bag (two at a time) and wipe them off every 30 minutes with a good ball cleaner or degreaser; I them follow that with a good cleaning with TRACK Clean N Dull to get them back to almost new !!!
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