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LaneHammer20

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Rattler, Python, G-B avalanche comparison?
« on: October 19, 2009, 02:45:50 AM »
I have a Rattler with a punder bridge modified Rico drill on it. I love that ball for true mediums, but later in the night the ball burns up a little ro much in the mids because of thew drill on it and the strong cover. I love this ball, shot my first 300 with it, just want some stuff to go under it.

I was wondering how the Python and the green black avalanche comapres as well with the same drill on it?

I probabaly will go pin above with the python, and same drill with black green avalanche, but would like to know others with the same drill to see what strength differences there are between the 3.

I throw 900/AMF with some LM/L thrown in. The problem is those 3 companies have hard time coming out with weaker cheaper equipment. Burnswick is easily top dog in this catagory.
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Re: Rattler, Python, G-B avalanche comparison?
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2009, 10:57:02 AM »
Wondering why you would put a Rico type layout (which are great for fresher) but when heads are going and you need to move in?   If moving in I'd want something that would go a bit longer and save energy for better carry.  At least that's the way I would look at it.  Pin up for me any way.
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Re: Rattler, Python, G-B avalanche comparison?
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2009, 11:03:39 AM »

The Python is a little cleaner through the front than the Rattler and faster to respond to friction. Mine is drilled pin down, and I love it that way, but if you go pin up it should also be good, just more angular.

The green/black Avalanche is a GREAT control piece. I usually go with it when the heads are gone because I can still get decent reaction and carry when everything else seems too strong and without the skid/snap of a 3 piece ball. As with all the Avalanches, I'd suggest strong layouts due to the tame core, just so you'll see some flare. Good luck.


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Re: Rattler, Python, G-B avalanche comparison?
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2009, 11:13:22 AM »
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Wondering why you would put a Rico type layout (which are great for fresher) but when heads are going and you need to move in? If moving in I''d want something that would go a bit longer and save energy for better carry. At least that''s the way I would look at it. Pin up for me any way.


My rattler was for my fresh house shot condition, and it excells in that. I can normally use it for most of the night at that house. It is one of the weaker balls I own. I have a Heist pearl with the pin in ring finger, but I am having some troubles with it being a little over under for me.

Just looking for a good compliment going down from the Rattler, and as I mentioned, the Python would be drilled pin above fingers. Throwing in the Black green, since the Link I have just is stronger and more over under than I was hoping for. Don''t feel comfortable using that ball, any surface with out polish on the Link is just way to strong for the given ball. Polish it up and it is over under.
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Re: Rattler, Python, G-B avalanche comparison?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2009, 11:39:29 AM »
Honestly, I would not bother with the Python.  If you are having trouble with pushing the ball once the heads start to go, the Python even with a pin up drill is still going to struggle simply because the strength of the cover.  I would skip the Python altogether and go with the Avalanche.  With the weaker cover and weaker core, it will be more usable for a longer period of time. And, as notclay mentioned, go with a stronger layout, pin between 4 and 4.5 inches from PAP.  If you go pin above bridge, you are looking at a 5.5 inch pin to PAP and risk an over/under reaction.  I would put the pin above and slightly outside the ring finger with the CG stacked and a weight hole, if needed, in the P2 position (Mo's Dual Angle Layout).
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Re: Rattler, Python, G-B avalanche comparison?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2009, 10:55:04 AM »
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Honestly, I would not bother with the Python.  If you are having trouble with pushing the ball once the heads start to go, the Python even with a pin up drill is still going to struggle simply because the strength of the cover.


'Fraid I'm gonna have to disagree, as this goes against all of my experience with the Python.  I've *never* had a problem getting the Python through drier heads, and for me, it gets better and better the further inside I move, because of its exceptional ability to recover.

That said, your choice of ball is going to depend on how you want to play the lanes.  If you like to chase the oil inside, and you want something that will make the corner from deep, then I'd give some serious thought to the Python.  If, however, you want to play a similar zone of the lane when the Rattler gets to be too much, or if you need control more than you need recovery, then I'd give the Avalanche the nod.
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Re: Rattler, Python, G-B avalanche comparison?
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2009, 11:05:13 AM »
Ray,

Do you think that even with his slower ball speed and "power tweener" status, that the Python will get through the heads clean enough to store something for the backend part of the lane.  His ball speed is 2-3 mph slower than yours with similar rev rate.  He lists his ball speed as "13-15 mph".
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Re: Rattler, Python, G-B avalanche comparison?
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2009, 02:01:53 PM »
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Do you think that even with his slower ball speed and "power tweener" status, that the Python will get through the heads clean enough to store something for the backend part of the lane.  His ball speed is 2-3 mph slower than yours with similar rev rate.  He lists his ball speed as "13-15 mph".


I think it could.  I've seen Pythons in the hands of a few people with softer speed, and they've been really straight through the fronts.  My only concern would be that, since the Python already has a quick response to friction, a pin-above drilling might make it too hard to control at the breakpoint.
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Re: Rattler, Python, G-B avalanche comparison?
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2009, 05:00:40 PM »
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Do you think that even with his slower ball speed and "power tweener" status, that the Python will get through the heads clean enough to store something for the backend part of the lane. His ball speed is 2-3 mph slower than yours with similar rev rate. He lists his ball speed as "13-15 mph".


This was based off of a year or so ago. Then it averaged around 15. These days my timing has improved alot as well as increased grip comfort, now I am averaging around 17, that is a guess, since I have never had it checked or bowled at a center with a speed sensor.

I know it has increased a good deal since last year, as well as my revs, on good nights when everything is clicking I probably average aroud 380.

I am into chasing the oil line, so when the Rattler with its drill is burning off to much steam from moving inside I want to switch to something I can continue my move with the carry I had.

The avalanche was mentioned in my post, because I am looking to replace my Link, and they have always caught my eye. This would be my ball above plastic. Is this one stronger than the blue pearl and the slide.
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Re: Rattler, Python, G-B avalanche comparison?
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2009, 03:48:15 AM »
Just wanted to answer your last question.  Yes, the Green/Black Avalanche Pearl is stronger than the Slide, and I believe it's also a tad stronger than the Blue/Silver Pearl overall.
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