quote:To explain the pin situation...The original color of the Classics were red. When it was realized that the coverstock was not correct, then the color was changed to dark green. As the pin cures, it has a tendency to darken and appear black. Either way, the green, dark green or black are the 'correct' color and the red are the 'blems' or 2nd's.Hope this clears it up for you Andrew.--------------------Ric HamlinPacific Northwest Product SpecialistBrunswick BowlingBRUNSWICK Strikes AGAIN