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Charles

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azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« on: January 24, 2008, 10:39:19 PM »
First of all, I am not saying not to deal with him. I just completed a purchase of 2 balls from him. Immediate paypal of funds to him on Friday. He shipped on Monday and I received on Wednesday. One ball was not layed out as he described and had been plugged (fingers) and redrilled. The span measurements were not as he stated either with the ring finger being lowered. He also said that both balls had less than 10 games. However, there was nicks/tracking and the balls had been resurfaced. I messaged him and gavehim the opportunity to work something out and he read but has not responded. I have completed a good transaction with him in the past. However, this one was on the opposite end of the spectrum for me. My suggestion is MAKE SURE TO GET PICS FROM HIM BEFORE YOU PURCHASE OR TRADE!!!

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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2008, 12:12:36 PM »
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How hard is it really to take a picture of an item and post it though? I hate going through fs/ft posts and not seeing a picture of the ball.
 


Not everybody has a digital camera 6.  I usually get pics of most of my balls and I've sold some on here without but I NEVER mislead anyway nor do I jack up prices.
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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2008, 12:35:44 PM »
I agree that not everyone has a camera. I currently do not either. Because I had dealt with him on one occasion in the past, I trusted him. However, there are repercussions 6.........everyone will know to get pics now BEFORE BUYING FROM HIM!

At least I didn't get my money taken like others in the past. For that Iam thankful. Iwill just remember him and my stupidity everytime I pic up one of those plugged resurfaced balls I got!

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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 12:44:21 PM »
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How hard is it really to take a picture of an item and post it though? I hate going through fs/ft posts and not seeing a picture of the ball.


Not everybody has a digital camera 6.


No, but you can throw a rock and hit someone that has one.  Heck, it's hard to buy a cell phone that don't have a camera these days.

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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2008, 01:11:12 PM »
Unless you have a Blackberry shelley............

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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 02:46:29 PM »
My Blackberry has a camera!
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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008, 03:23:58 PM »
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No, but you can throw a rock and hit someone that has one. Heck, it's hard to buy a cell phone that don't have a camera these days.

SH  


Don't have a cell phone either shelley.  I've sold a number of balls and everyone has been happy with my equipment and description.  Very exact.  Plus I sell at a reasonable price.
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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2008, 03:25:34 PM »
John, as stupid as this sounds, I did not know you could take pictures and put them on a cd to download. In all the deals I have ever done, I have never posted a picture. Now that I know it is that easy, I will change my habits. Thanks!
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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008, 03:26:14 PM »
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Well, there is a little thing at Walmart called a disposable camera. You can take pictures of your equipment that you are wanting to sell and have Walmart (or any photo mart for that matter) put those pics on a CD. So then you have a digital picture to host somewhere online and display the ball. It really isn't that hard to do. Small investment and you have a backup image of your equipment in case it gets stolen.


More expense.  Where does that $$ come from the buyer....just like sellers that add Paypal fees for the buyer to assume? I agree about having pics.  I have some of mine but not all.
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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2008, 03:27:30 PM »
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John, as stupid as this sounds, I did not know you could take pictures and put them on a cd to download. In all the deals I have ever done, I have never posted a picture. Now that I know it is that easy, I will change my habits. Thanks!
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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2008, 03:48:18 PM »
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scotts33, I see your point about the added expense to the seller and I totally respect your perspective.

But people do like to see what the product looks like. I would never buy anything off of eBay without a pic, no matter the seller's rating. Here it is different somewhat, because I know who or more about the seller (like mrbowlingnut or chrisleftwich).

The comfort of being able to see the product is and has always been the strong selling point.

If you are selling several balls, you can offset the added expense to the balls, like a dollar here and there to each ball.

Just my thoughts and opinions


I don't disagree 6!  It more about the confidence and ability of the seller in knowing their equipment.  I'll be picking up a reasonably priced digital camera soon just because I do agree with your summary.  


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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2008, 06:03:13 PM »
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charles you forgot to say the i told you thursday to send them back i would give you your money back i bought them from a seller that sell alot on here i told you what he told me about the balls i never used them so i was given bad info  you never asked for pictures or i would have got them first thing you email about was the grip holes were not the size for your grips if the are so bad why are they being plugged right now and  who says you can call someone a jerk i do not know you and you do not know me or the whole story


I don't want to start a grammar police thing, but that's really hard to read.

Did you not look at the balls you got from the other person, or did you have that person send them directly to Charles?  Neither is an acceptable excuse in my opinion.
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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2008, 11:34:41 AM »
First of all...I miss where the name calling started? Let's see, you did offer for me to send them back but never offered to pay for that shipment so I lose what another $30 on this deal? Now, since you say the first thing I said was about the pilot holes drilled for the fingers being too big, I will post all communication after receiving the balls below:

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To:  azkid        
Sent:  1/23/2008 4:00:55 PM
Subject:  ogre
Message:  I rceived both balls today and upon inspection, the Pearl CG is stacked in the palm area and not kicked out as you said. I am going to have to plug and lay it out with pin high and CG out for the reaction and purpose I was looking for. Not exactly as I was told in this deal.........I wish you had sent pics as the span is close.


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To:  azkid        
Sent:  1/23/2008 6:52:11 PM
Subject:  ogre
Message:  Just got back from the pro shop and the Ogre Pearl has had the middle finger plugged and redrilled. Looks like a span change. It was not a single drill and it was the opinion of myself and the pro shop guy who is a well known regional pba member and storm staffer that there is no way that ball has only 10 games on it. He said somebody resurfaced it and the Ogre Solid both but that they did a better job on the Ogre Solid. I do not know what you were told by who you got them from, but you were misinformed and so was I now. They also used
1 1/32" pilot holes for the finger inserts which are bigger than usual and I am going to have to fully plug the balls no matter what. The measurements on the cuts were not 4 3/8 x 4 3/8 cut to cut. The ring fingers were dropped shorter. All in all...this is now a bad transaction for me. I know we have had great transactions in the past. What do you think?


Charles
 
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From:  azkid        
Received:  1/23/2008 9:20:27 PM
Subject:  ogre
Message:  i went by what xxxxxxxxxx told me i never used them he said they had 10 games on them nothing about plugsi never looked at them close

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From:  azkid        
Received:  1/23/2008 9:37:51 PM
Subject:  ogre
Message:  what do you want to do send them bsck ? i am not a pro shop i dont know how big the finger holes are i went by what he told me
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To:  azkid        
Sent:  1/25/2008 7:23:53 AM
Subject:  ogre
Message:  I have given you plenty of time to respond and you have read my messages.I am forced to consider this a bad transaction and not recommend you in the future. Thank you.


Charles

 
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From:  azkid        
Received:  1/25/2008 9:08:23 AM
Subject:  ogre
Message:  i asked if you wanted to send them back what do you want? if you used 15# i would send you a couple more balls tell me what you want i should have looked at them better when i bought them they were on the way i started to use 15# again they got here i opend boxs look inside put boxes in the closet i sent them to you in the same boxs they came in do you want your 100.00 back you can give me bad feedback after this i wont sell anything again iwill throw them in the trash i was gone all day yesterday but i did think about this
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To:  azkid        
Sent:  1/25/2008 9:29:33 AM
Subject:  ogre
Message:  After not hearing from you, I went ahead and dropped them back off at the pro shop with the opinion it was a loss and whatelse can I do since you were not responding. Balls were plugged last night. Yes, you should have looked closer, especially before you sold them. As you can see from my post in the feedbackforum, I only posted facts and no opinions. I did not suggest nobody deal with you, only that they get pics in the future. Therefore, I did not try to keep you from being able to deal here. No I do not though 15#.


Charles

 


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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2008, 11:49:27 AM »
i never buy any ball without lookin at some kind of pics.

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Re: azkid.......GET PICS!!!!
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2008, 12:03:15 PM »
If I have dealt with the person in the past, I will buy all day with no pics.. if its someone I have never dealt with, pics are then a must..

This is an unfortunate situation, thats for sure..
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