Post by: sportwood24 on June 02, 2006, 08:46:44 AM
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Post by: MegaMav on June 02, 2006, 04:58:34 PM
and he had the nerve to offer me a used quantum leap for my NIB Quantum Raven, then has the nerve to tell me the leap is better than the raven in my own F/S thread, what a punk, another teenage waste.
hope he shipped it parcel post and it's just slow.
14 year olds are cheap, no income!
Post by: sportwood24 on June 02, 2006, 05:02:03 PM
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Post by: fins4ever88 on June 02, 2006, 05:04:31 PM
http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=15&BallID=720
Scroll down to his review. I PMed him calmly to stop acting immature, and he responded using curse words and such, as in still acting immature.
No offense, but anyone under the age of 16 I wouldn't trust. At all.
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Post by: fins4ever88 on June 02, 2006, 05:05:40 PM
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i wouldnt have done business with him, just reading his posts and his level of annoyance on the boards, would have been enough to deter me.
and he had the nerve to offer me a used quantum leap for my NIB Quantum Raven, then has the nerve to tell me the leap is better than the raven in my own F/S thread, what a punk, another teenage waste.
hope he shipped it parcel post and it's just slow.
14 year olds are cheap, no income!
He also tried to hijack someone's F/S post for a Ravage by posting his own. And not just one post in the other guy's thread, I think it was about 5 or so.
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Post by: legend4life95 on June 02, 2006, 05:06:55 PM
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He said that he shipped it last weekend in an e-mail but I still have not recieved it.
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If he used USPS it would'nt suprise me if you got it next month. If he used UPS, FEDEX, or DHL, it should be there by now. All 3 of those services are 5 days or less transit times. USPS gets there when it gets there.
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Post by: jkiser01 on June 02, 2006, 05:09:38 PM
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Post by: sportwood24 on June 02, 2006, 07:50:54 PM
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Post by: ebolanebowler on June 02, 2006, 10:30:36 PM
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Buying a lane#1 ball is like buying a car friggin' expensive, but friggin' worth it
Post by: clovismaul on June 03, 2006, 01:04:10 PM
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Post by: ebolanebowler on June 03, 2006, 02:41:35 PM
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Buying a lane#1 ball is like buying a car friggin' expensive, but friggin' worth it
Post by: sportwood24 on June 03, 2006, 03:50:35 PM
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"There are no stupid questions only stupid people"
Post by: sportwood24 on June 04, 2006, 10:17:00 PM
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Post by: MegaMav on June 04, 2006, 11:03:21 PM
Post by: MI 2 AZ on June 05, 2006, 01:49:38 AM
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i seem to remember someone saying a while back that internet fraud was a federal offense.......
http://www.ic3.gov/
http://www.internetfraud.usdoj.gov/
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Post by: sportwood24 on June 05, 2006, 07:59:17 AM
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"There are no stupid questions only stupid people"
Post by: golfnutFL on June 05, 2006, 08:54:33 AM
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Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.
Post by: jkiser01 on June 05, 2006, 09:08:38 AM
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Could be fraud. BUT normally, legally, it would be nearly impossible to enforce any sort of contract (sale etc.) involving a person under 18 years of age.
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That is exactly why I will never deal with anyone under 18 on this forum.. I don't care how good of feedback they have. If someone has to depend on their mom to take them to the post office to pick up a money order, sorry I am out on that..
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Post by: golfnutFL on June 05, 2006, 01:08:30 PM
quote:QuoteCould be fraud. BUT normally, legally, it would be nearly impossible to enforce any sort of contract (sale etc.) involving a person under 18 years of age.
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why not? the state of New York charged an 8 year old with homocide last week........why cant we prosecute a 14 year old for fraud?
-edit- before anyone flames me and says "Well thats different".....the kid was playing in an empty schoolbus that was left unlocked and released the brake, causing the bus to run over an 8 year old girl.........but apparnetly he knew exactly what he was doing and had every intention to kill someone. so again, what stops this fine country from prosecuting a 14 year old for fraud?
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Because most state laws prohibit minors from entering into legally binding contracts, based really upon the notion that adults might prey on their naivety. These laws are for the protection of the minors in this instance.
That is obviously not the same as a minor committing an intentional violent act. Under that circumstance the law acts as the protector of the victim. And in a way that is exactly why minors may not be legally bound to a contract, they too are the ones being protected by law from becoming a victim.
An adult's ignorance of the law (the one that does not allow minors to enter into written or implied enforcable contracts) does not disallow that protection for the minor. Personally, I wouldn't attempt any commerce between myself and a minor. But that's just me.
I am not nearly as familiar with the aspects of fraud as I am with contracts. So, possibly, there could be merit to a fraud argument. BUT, I suspect that this was more of a contractual obligation between these two parties and if so the minor in this situation would be under no obligation to fulfill his end of that contract.
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Post by: Lane1Redneck on June 05, 2006, 02:56:26 PM
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Post by: golfnutFL on June 05, 2006, 04:33:42 PM
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BUT, in this situation cant the parents be liable for his actions as in such other cases when minors mess-up ?
Depends on state law. Contract law is usually pretty clear and it doesn't appear as though the parents were any party to it. In my experiences in CT and FL I wouldn't think that the parents could legally be held to be responsible, but if they were any kind of parents at all it would seem a good way to teach responsibility to their child.
Overall though it is in every adults best interest to not negotiate a written or implied contract with a minor. It is not an even playing field, nor should it be.
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Post by: sportwood24 on June 05, 2006, 04:50:16 PM
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Post by: golfnutFL on June 05, 2006, 08:39:40 PM
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Not all kids are bad though. If you want to go that route fine but we were all kids once.
I didn't say one word about all kids (or any kids) being bad. You did the deal and brought up the topic. Merely stating the risks (all on the adult end and risks I prefer not to be bothered with) that an adult assumes by entering into a contractual type business deal with a minor. That's my preference, not a referendum on whether all kids, no kids or any kids are good, bad or indifferent.
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Post by: sportwood24 on June 05, 2006, 09:14:09 PM
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Post by: Troyboy on June 06, 2006, 03:02:02 PM
He has a different screen name over there (bowler0208) , but similar profile, and has tried dealing the same balls there as he is here.
USERS PLEASE BEWARE UNTIL THIS MATTER IS RESOLVED!
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Post by: axeweldr on June 06, 2006, 03:18:17 PM
John
Post by: sportwood24 on June 06, 2006, 06:57:10 PM
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Post by: ebolanebowler on June 06, 2006, 08:16:55 PM
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Buying a lane#1 ball is like buying a car friggin' expensive, but friggin' worth it
Post by: sportwood24 on June 06, 2006, 10:42:16 PM
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Post by: MI 2 AZ on June 07, 2006, 01:08:47 AM
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Post by: jkiser01 on June 07, 2006, 06:34:46 AM
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Call his local police department first.
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I had someone on ebay try to rip me off years ago and I called the local police department in the area and they went and paid the guy a visit and I had a refund in the mail that next day.. I would call the police and tell them. The only issue I see is the amount of money involved in your case. I was out almost $500 bucks and the police where able to help me out because it was a felony.
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Post by: sportwood24 on June 07, 2006, 08:18:14 AM
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Post by: Troyboy on June 07, 2006, 08:22:04 AM
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Post by: ebolanebowler on June 07, 2006, 09:24:05 AM
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Buying a lane#1 ball is like buying a car friggin' expensive, but friggin' worth it
Post by: sportwood24 on June 07, 2006, 06:09:59 PM
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Post by: ebolanebowler on June 07, 2006, 06:31:04 PM
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Buying a lane#1 ball is like buying a car friggin' expensive, but friggin' worth it
Post by: volley_man on June 08, 2006, 11:02:00 AM
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Post by: sportwood24 on June 08, 2006, 05:08:16 PM
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Post by: ebolanebowler on June 08, 2006, 06:09:05 PM
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Buying a lane#1 ball is like buying a car friggin' expensive, but friggin' worth it
Post by: Roy Munson on June 08, 2006, 07:14:05 PM
. . . well, let's see
. . . this thread was started on 6/2
. . . He received his ball 6/8
. . . you think so ?
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Post by: Roy Munson on June 08, 2006, 08:53:13 PM
... thanks, HB
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Post by: sportwood24 on June 09, 2006, 08:36:19 AM
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