I made a post a week ago to trade a 15# Cherry Bomb for a 15# Inferno.  Odddood sent pics of "his" ball, and I did the same!  Well, he said he shipped, but his friend had the tracking info.  I shipped, and sent him tracking info.  He got my ball, but claims the ball he "sent" was returned refused due to damage!  The ball never came here.  He "said" he called UPS, who told him the ball was being returned to him.  Well, then I get the following reply from hi.

From:  Odddood        
Received:  11/3/2003 5:32:34 PM
Subject:  trade
Message:  Ok Rick Just got off the phone with UPS customer service they told me the {package was returned due to Shipper refused Damage } The ball was Double Box and I told them You never got it how can it be refuse?. They say sometimes the package was damage so they decided to send it back to me. I will get it back this Thursday or Friday. As for your ball I just got it 5 Min Ago. I open it and is has a huge hole is it leagle? it feels like a 14lb. Not 15lb? I have My proshop check it out see if 14 or 15. If is light 15 I have to send it back to you. Let you know tomorrow!



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Still no ball?! UPS has come and gone again, and no ball. Please send me tracking info! I kept my word and you should have gotten your ball today, now my son is a bit disappointed, as he was really looking forward to the Inferno. I don't know what to tell him now, because you "shipped" before I did, and we're still waiting. Please let me know something.

Thanks,
Rick


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Can't Find the tracking number but don't worry if you not home or unable to deliver it will come back to me. I will let you know if that happened. they will try 3 times. I shipped with my friends UPS account so that's why I don't have it here. and is insure.


After contacting him, he sent the following:


> > "Jimmy W." wrote:> > Rick I hear You I don't Blame you 98% off people> on> > this forum is great. I did not back out of the> deal> > !!> > I will Send the Ball Back today!! I give u> tracking> > Number! This is 1st time happened to me! I Don't> like> > the inferno anyway but is insure so either way> I> > will be cover and since you are dealing with me> you> > are safe. > thats> > my Cell number. Thats how sure I am about ME!> > > > > > --- Rick Perry > > wrote:> > > Jimmy,

Then I get this:
> No I am sending the Cherry Bomb back! My friends has ainferno just like mine if u still want it same condition I can get it from him UPS has not pick uppackage yet. Like I say mine is some where in Michg.Jimmy,

Then, just this morning he sends me this, after sending me a tracking number that was supposed to be my Cherry Bomb coming back:


Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:01:51 -0800 (PST)
From:  "Jimmy W." <odddood@yahoo.com> | Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Cherry Bomb
To: "Rick Perry" <ppsproshop@yahoo.com>
       
 


If you don't believed me then Fine I keep your cherry
Bomb then I tell you and you don't believed. Ok fine I
buy you one. As for posting this go ahead I never rip
anyone off this site. If you don't like it so be it!!


 
I apologize for this long post, but now I'm out of my ball, as well as the ball I was promised.  I dealt in earnest.  The pics I sent him clearly showed the ball at all angles, including the weight hole.  I can only hope he will do the right thing, and send my ball back, as he "claims" he loves this site so much.

I hope the owners of the site see this post and assure this type of thing is not allowed to happen again.  I've made several transactions on this site, and now I'm leary of making trades.

Thanks,
Rick




 


Edited on 11/4/2003 4:53 PM

Just want to state that I had a successful transaction with Sawman1.  Prompt service and very helpful in supplying information.
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I am the SGT Schultz of bowling.
"I know nothing!"

Edited on 11/4/2003 11:43 AM

I currently have a multiple ball deal in progress with Sawman1 and I can tell you that he seems honest and trustworthy and I believe he sent pics of the Cherry Bomb to Odddood. Besides, just plug it and redrill it as most people would. It's just a ball and if he expected a used ball in new condition, he would have been better of just buying a new Cherry Bomb. Communication to this point with Sawman has been good so I definately have to give him the benefit of the doubt. People do sometimes have unforeseen problems arise in the middle of deals, but honesty and doing the right thing is all that is asked of anyone. You are not always going to get what you expected out of these deals but the good people on here attempt to make it right. Hopefully, things will work out.
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Try a Buzzsaw today and see the difference!!!!

Maybe it's just me,

But the only time I can understand if something comes up in the middle of a deal, is if The person is buying something from me, and had to use the money for something else.  Or if I am buying from someone like a proshop, and they accidently sold the ball to someone else.

This was a trade, you should only be trading with something you have in your possesion, not something you are planning on getting.  Also once the deal is made the deal is made.  If you didn't ask the person for pictures before you said it was a deal, then you just have to deal with it.  

When A man looses his word he has nothing. (Damn I sound like an old man)

I'm not saying Odddood was trying to rip him off, just saying that when you commit to something, then you should go through with it.

JM2C
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Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
 Visionary Test Staff Member

  To all:

 After reading the previous post I have one quick question.

 Does anyone’s computer come with a "spell check"? I find myself needing aspirin after reading some of the posts. With misspelled words in the bunches and run on sentences with rarely a comma or period in sight it's getting ridiculous. I do realise that we are not all English Majors, for the record neither am I, but have a heart for the people who are going to read your responses.

 Thank you,

 Gallandro

I know Rick (sawman) personally and he is a good guy.

Have done deals with him before and they have always went well.

this has nothing to do with what happened, and sawman u did get screwed by mr dood, but from what i have read odddood is either 7-8 years old or someone just trying to learn the english language.  not sure about everyone else. Even clump makes more sense to me than this guy.  (and yes there is a spell checker included in post reply option on this forum)

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